[FFmpeg-devel-irc] IRC log for 2011-02-07

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[02:29:46] <wooster> U know wat I fink ur d ugliest gurl in d world n YEEEESSSSSS I went dere
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[03:08:15] <BBB> thanks Dark_Shikari
[05:27:13] <ohsix> elenril: re concatenating files, sqlite has a build option for that, and it goes farther than just sticking them all together too :D it's neat
[05:39:21] <drv> poor man's lto
[05:39:47] <spoinks> knocks a huge amount off the binary though
[06:01:14] <peloverde__> don't you have to worry about symbol collision and whatnot?
[06:01:51] <ohsix> drv: it's for just throwing it in as-is into projects
[06:02:10] <ohsix> theres not much to gain for the exercise beyond that, at least with sqlite
[06:02:19] <cartman> moin
[06:02:30] <ohsix> all the config options play out into generating the composite
[06:03:56] <Sean_McG>  /j #gcc
[06:03:59] <Sean_McG> ewps
[06:53:32] <spoinks> Sean_McG: haha jew
[06:54:22] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:54:29] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:54:36] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:54:41] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:54:48] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:54:55] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:55:05] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:55:10] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:55:17] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:55:25] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:55:34] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:55:42] <spoinks> 死̓ͣ͒ͮ̃̏͋̽̈͂̋͛̀̓̽҉̷̢͇̰̟̬͔̺̺͓̘͔͎͙̙͚̟̰͠͞ͅ亡̷̛̹̼̠͇̹̫̜̰͍͉̙̩̪̗ͪ͂̅͑̌͞對̵̭̙͖͎̲̗̺̣͉̹̤̗̹̭̝̩̫̥̒ͨ͐̐͒ͬ̌ͬ̆̒̋͌̄ͅ黑̩̰̰̜͎̇̽ͨ͒͌͌͜͢͜͝͝人̸̢͖͚̘̝̙̙̮̦͓͖̺̝͕͚̟͔͙̩̍ͮ̓̓ͪͩ͛̔̎ͫ̈́ͧͣ̑̈́́̀̚̕ͅ講̛͇͔͓̩̳͇̳̙͇͚̲͗͗̌ͮ̓̓͗́̆ͥ̄̈́͆ͦ̒ͬ͡話͇̣͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗̬̦̺͖̳̟͎̘͚̗͌ͬͨͤ̀ͭͬ͜͡
[06:55:43] <Sean_McG> what the...
[06:55:45] <saintdev> wtf
[06:55:46] <Dark_Shikari> bot
[06:55:54] <Dark_Shikari> abusing unicode usernames
[06:56:02] <Sean_McG> what an asshat
[06:56:20] <elenril> wtf is with the troll invasion
[06:56:34] <saintdev> failnode at it's bestest?
[06:57:30] <Sean_McG> has the nerve to call me a jew, I'll have you know I'm agnostic
[06:57:52] <cartman> lol
[07:01:24] <elenril> wtf, they want money for the iso-8859-1 specs?
[07:02:41] <pJok> elenril, it's iso, they want money for every iso standard
[07:03:07] <Sean_McG> indeedly doodly
[07:04:16] <peloverde__> A few like 14496-12 are free
[07:04:53] <elenril> what happened to free and open standards
[07:05:09] <Sean_McG> maybe in another universe
[07:10:21] <Tjoppen> google with filetype:pdf ?
[07:11:06] <Tjoppen> works quite well, except when google still returns paywalls
[07:11:45] <Sean_McG> yeah, expert exchange can just fucking die
[07:32:19] <benoit-> good morning
[07:51:28] <Anssi> hmm.. are applications that hand data directly to lavf (i.e. lavf doesn't open files itself) expected to register a private URLProtocol, or should allocating a ByteIOContext suffice?
[07:52:40] <Anssi> and if the latter, why isn't ff_probe_input_buffer() public?
[07:57:55] <astrange> BBB: i see no reason not to commit the mt patches
[07:59:58] <saintdev> omgomgomgzomg!
[08:11:42] <wbs> Anssi: hmmm, for input files, it might be tricky to get the probing to use the custom ByteIOContext - I guess patches are welcome
[08:11:56] <wbs> Anssi: I've used custom ByteIOContexts for output from muxers mainly
[08:12:55] <elenril> which reminds me -- what should we do with ByteIOContext in the grand avio rename
[08:13:51] <elenril> is it even public?
[08:14:23] <wbs> yes, it's public and it's a common way of getting the output from lavf piped into what you want in memory
[08:15:39] <elenril> i guess it changes into AVByteIOContext then
[08:16:03] <elenril> or maybe just AVIOContext
[08:16:05] <Anssi> wbs: yep, currently in xbmc we handle it by doing more manual work (e.g. calling av_probe_input_format2), but ff_probe_input_buffer() seems nice if we could use that, plus the ff_rewind_with_probe_data() trick it does nicely avoids a seek
[08:16:28] * elenril paints avio purple with black dots
[08:17:00] <wbs> Anssi: ah. I'm not all that familiar with the input probing functions, but I do think a better solution is welcome :-)
[08:18:29] <Anssi> wbs: I'll post a patch on ffmpeg-devel@ then to see if there is opposition, thanks
[09:11:42] <KotH> salut
[09:13:11] <spaam> Heeey KotH
[09:14:04] <av500> bonjour
[09:20:47] <thresh> morning
[09:20:53] <thresh> fun stuff: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/02/msg00125.html
[09:21:20] <wbs> haha
[09:21:48] <cartman> man :)
[09:21:56] <cartman> wbs: finally got jni hooked up :P
[09:22:07] <wbs> cartman: congrats ;P
[09:22:11] <wbs> cartman: that wasn't so hard, was it?
[09:22:22] <cartman> wbs: it required me to actually code and read some docs
[09:22:33] <wbs> cartman: aww, poor you :-)
[09:22:40] <cartman> yeah yeah ;P
[09:23:40] <av500> cartman: I feel your pain
[09:24:22] <cartman> I am in the middle of a job transition, tough to do something useful :p
[09:35:19] <av500> merbzt: please pm me the name of the E guy
[09:36:30] <mmu_man> plop
[09:36:35] <mmu_man> back from FOSDEM, finally
[09:36:49] <mru> finally? was it that bad?
[09:37:25] <mmu_man> yeah the Thalys yesterday was 15min late, missed the connection
[09:37:30] <mmu_man> had to sleep in paris
[09:37:40] <mmu_man> arrived an hour ago
[09:37:45] <mmu_man> 14h trip :)
[09:37:58] <mru> where do you live?
[09:38:14] <mmu_man> valence
[09:38:58] <mmu_man> http://osm.org/go/xV9_n0D1C-
[09:52:36] <pross-au> kshishkov: awake?
[09:52:51] <mru> xxxxxaaaan!
[09:56:44] <kshishkov> pross-au: yep
[09:57:25] <kshishkov> mru: wrong universe. That codec is from Xan Vader world, not Wrath of Xan
[09:58:01] <elenril> what are you talking about, Xan is a necromancer from Baldur's Gate
[09:58:43] <av500> what does "Too many buffered pts" mean in mplayer?
[09:59:16] <mru> probably that the mplayer variant guess_pt() fucked up
[09:59:20] <kshishkov> that it lost sync
[09:59:22] <mru> +s
[09:59:33] <av500> kshishkov: as in decoder too slow?
[09:59:53] <spaam> pross-au: working on bink-b? :)
[10:00:09] <kshishkov> av500: or it demuxes audio/vieo wrong - happended couple of times when playing .flv with -nosound to me
[10:00:35] <av500> kshishkov: in this case, trying to play 720p on a beagle....
[10:00:43] <pross-au> spaam: done, mate
[10:00:54] <spaam> pross-au: gj! :D
[10:00:55] <pross-au> applying polish
[10:01:28] <spaam> time to drink some trocadero? :)
[10:01:29] <kshishkov> you mean shearing wool from it?
[10:01:58] <kshishkov> spaam: jag, jag vill gärna
[10:02:08] <kshishkov> *ja
[10:02:52] <pross-au> trocadero?
[10:03:09] <kshishkov> pross-au: mythical Swedish stuff
[10:04:07] <spaam> pross-au: for row in spamReader:
[10:04:08] <spaam> ops
[10:04:12] <spaam> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Trocadero.jpg
[10:04:18] <pross-au> Is it fizzy and bubbly?
[10:04:55] <Tjoppen> orange + apple, fizzy and slightly caffeinated
[10:05:18] <pross-au> all my favourites drinks combined in one
[10:05:43] <kshishkov> spaam: I have only http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Trocadero_karameller.JPG
[10:05:48] <Tjoppen> portello is also nice
[10:06:00] <kshishkov> even Pommac is fine
[10:06:04] <Tjoppen> more malty
[10:06:13] <Tjoppen> and champis of course
[10:06:29] <spaam> mm :)
[10:13:27] <kshishkov> pross-au: Bink-i for example
[10:14:42] <pross-au> i am only a peon kshishkov
[10:15:32] <kshishkov> at least they've upgraded RAD video tools from 1.9z to 1.99a a month ago
[10:15:49] <kshishkov> maybe we'll get BIKj to RE eventually
[10:16:08] <kshishkov> so finish polishing BIKb decoder please :)
[10:16:26] <pross-au> Wilco
[10:16:55] * kshishkov knows it's military slang but remembers Space Quest series nevertheless
[10:31:17] <elenril> mru: i wonder if using clang's __has_attribute is a good idea
[10:31:59] * kshishkov wonder why mru has missed FOSDEM presentation where they talked about Clang for Minix
[10:34:46] <_av500_> Clinix?
[10:34:56] <_av500_> or Minilang
[10:37:26] <kshishkov> also they talked about Clang almost ready for BSD
[10:37:37] <kshishkov> x86[_64]
[10:42:13] <pross-au> Mlang
[10:45:23] <saste> Flameeyes: how can I see the branches in your flameeyes repo?
[10:45:35] <saste> Flameeyes: git branch shows only "master"
[10:45:42] <wbs> saste: git branch -r
[10:46:06] <saste> wbs: thanks
[11:00:47] <kshishkov> hmm, a new Opus draft
[11:00:59] <kshishkov> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-codec-opus-02.txt
[11:07:13] <spaam> kshishkov: Do we have a decoder for it?
[11:07:21] <kshishkov> nope
[11:07:40] <kshishkov> and neither for its base (CELT and SILK)
[11:07:56] <spaam> what are you waiting for? :)
[11:08:06] <kshishkov> flying pigs, of course
[11:09:12] <elenril> not for binkb?
[11:09:19] <kshishkov> that too
[11:09:33] <kshishkov> but since Peter claims it's almost ready...
[11:31:06] <Tjoppen> I suspect large parts of it can be implemented. they seem to be mostly fine tuning parameters
[11:34:20] <spaam> Tjoppen: do you mean that DonDiego can do it?
[11:36:44] <kshishkov> spaam: when you mentioned that even his connection shuddered
[11:37:22] <spaam> mm =/
[11:38:17] <Tjoppen> I did sort of read the spec rapidly. I was mostly interested in the PVQ stuff for other purposes
[11:39:58] <DonDiego> you were saying?
[11:40:28] <_av500_> DonDiego: you still want that laptop?
[11:40:43] <kshishkov> DonDiego: you can finetune our Opus encoder
[11:40:52] <kshishkov> _av500_: advertised by you?
[11:43:29] <av500> DonDiego: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5424891272/
[11:48:04] <Tjoppen> holy base64 encoded source code tarball in the opus spec batman!
[11:48:13] <cartman> av500: supersonic as in the noise it makes
[11:48:19] <av500> cartman: u bet!
[11:48:31] <cartman> looks exactly like my first supersonic laptop
[11:48:45] <av500> cartman: yeah, got it from ebay.tr
[11:48:54] <av500> nice pics
[11:48:56] <cartman> av500: :)
[11:49:15] <av500> i guess the encrypted emails are from your pkk buds?
[11:49:20] <kshishkov> av500: may I interest you in GuruPlug - ARM device with fan?
[11:49:37] <cartman> av500: stop hating me
[11:49:48] * av500 stops hating cartman
[11:50:10] <kshishkov> av500: and why have you got Efika-MX? you are in love with TI
[11:50:29] <av500> kshishkov: lu_zero forced it on me
[11:50:41] <kshishkov> ah, not surprising then
[11:51:17] <av500> and "in love" is the wrong word
[11:51:28] <av500> its more like a hate hate relationship
[11:52:42] <cartman> av500: http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/5112199042/ is that mru on your right?
[11:52:49] <kshishkov> isn't there a saying "if he shouts at you it means he loves you"?
[11:53:31] <_av500_> cartman: read the comments
[11:53:38] <_av500_> but yes
[11:53:53] <cartman> _av500_: he is never happy
[11:54:17] <av500> cartman: because ppl always break his fate
[11:54:43] <cartman> http://llvm.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=9123 not my fault
[11:55:55] <av500> so easy to always blame others....
[11:55:58] <av500> :)
[11:58:17] <cartman> av500: I bisected pffft
[12:06:18] <elenril> anyone against renaming ByteIOContext into just AVIOContext?
[12:06:26] <av500> go for it
[12:07:16] <kshishkov> elenril: but how can we distinguish it from WordIOContext and DwordIOContext? Oh, we don't have such, go for it.
[12:07:37] <av500> elenril: unless it is core functionality!
[12:07:42] <pross-au> Why AV?
[12:07:49] <elenril> what else
[12:07:52] <kshishkov> pross-au: for libav* of course
[12:08:18] <elenril> everything that belongs to public api should be av-prefixed
[12:08:45] <cartman> pross-au: because they are into Japanese pr0n
[12:09:14] <kshishkov> cartman: only if its subtitles have metadata
[12:13:18] <pross-au> makes sense. is this proposed for ffmpeg >= 0.7
[12:16:44] * cartman notes that this tablet uses gstreamer
[12:16:52] <cartman> and it seems to have OMX support hmmhmmm
[12:17:22] <astrange> WordIOContext sounds like a reimplementation of icu text boundaries
[12:17:52] <av500> cartman: which one?
[12:18:28] <cartman> av500: some Marvell 7'' tablet from USA
[12:22:41] <kshishkov> hmm, is it Moby tablet (based on Armada 6xx)?
[12:24:04] <cartman> No name, engineering sample
[12:24:32] * kshishkov looks at Marvell Armada 610 and 618 product brief, sees WMMX2 block next to VFP3.0, erases Marvell from his memory
[12:25:12] <cartman> Processor       : Marvell Mohawk rev 0 (v5l)
[12:25:12] <cartman> BogoMIPS        : 796.26
[12:25:14] <cartman> ARMv5
[12:25:34] <kshishkov> yuck, that's coprolith
[13:32:25] <av500> lu_zero: ping
[13:39:08] <cartman> awesomeness
[13:39:14] * cartman pokes himself
[14:03:06] <elenril> :/
[14:03:13] <elenril> srsly, WHERE ARE ALL THE ML ADINS
[14:03:24] <elenril> admins even
[14:03:25] <Dark_Shikari> failing
[14:03:26] <av500> would the real admins please stand up?
[14:03:27] <Dark_Shikari> at life
[14:03:40] <Dark_Shikari> this is what happens when the "leadership team" is a bunch of incompetent fucks who just want someone else to do the job for them
[14:03:49] <kshishkov> elenril: they are mostly French
[14:03:50] <Dark_Shikari> (note: it was like this before, too)
[14:04:17] <kshishkov> Dark_Shikari: nobody cared to seize power over ML adminship it seems
[14:05:35] <elenril> ffmpeg-devel list run by baptiste.coudurier at gmail.com, benoit.fouet at free.fr, mans at mansr.com << says https://lists.mplayerhq.hu/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
[14:05:36] <superdump> my guess is that it is because people are travelling back from fosdem
[14:05:44] <superdump> well, mans at least
[14:06:18] <Dark_Shikari> mru refused to moderate it
[14:06:23] <Dark_Shikari> I haven't seen benoit in ages
[14:06:24] <superdump> what?
[14:06:33] <superdump> benoit- is right here
[14:06:36] <Dark_Shikari> oh, he is here.
[14:06:38] <Dark_Shikari> I'm blind
[14:07:32] <kshishkov> superdump: he appeared ponly few days ago and there's no indication he's done admin work
[14:10:26] <benoit-> Dark_Shikari: well, that's OK; I love being ignored anyway :P
[14:11:28] <kshishkov> benoit-: is that because most of us don't speak French?
[14:11:42] <superdump> what needs moderating anyway?
[14:11:45] <benoit-> is that *what* because?
[14:11:56] <Dark_Shikari> there are a few trolls on the ML.
[14:12:03] * elenril only sees one atm
[14:12:04] <mru> Dark_Shikari: when have I refused anything?
[14:12:08] <benoit-> superdump: I've begun to re administrate/moderate -devel and -cvslog
[14:12:13] <Dark_Shikari> mru: I thought you said that you weren't goin to moderate the ML?
[14:12:18] <Dark_Shikari> and that it wasn't your job?
[14:12:24] <cartman> mru: when someone is taking a photo of you, smile :p
[14:12:33] <Dark_Shikari> Or was that Diego who said that?
[14:12:39] <mru> cartman: it helps if I know they're taking it
[14:12:44] <benoit-> Dark_Shikari: what do you want to do as far as trolls are concerned ?
[14:12:51] <cartman> mru: blame av500 then :P
[14:12:53] <Dark_Shikari> benoit-: people who are trolling and who aren't developers should be banned from the list
[14:12:55] <benoit-> remove them from the list ? that would be stupid
[14:13:02] <Dark_Shikari> er, banned from posting
[14:13:08] <kshishkov> Dark_Shikari: and he has not agreed to add mailman rule to filter out mails to ffmpeg-devel containing "leader" or "vote" :(
[14:13:09] <mru> Dark_Shikari: I don't feel it's my place to decide who's a troll
[14:13:10] <Dark_Shikari> ffmpeg-devel is for developers.
[14:13:15] <benoit-> Dark_Shikari: just ignore them
[14:13:20] <mru> especially without any written policy
[14:13:27] <Dark_Shikari> benoit-: that isn't really a good solution
[14:13:32] <Dark_Shikari> a) people don't ignore them, they get bites
[14:13:36] <benoit-> mru: I agree it's not our role
[14:13:47] <Dark_Shikari> b) they make everything worse
[14:13:51] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Anton Khirnov <anton at khirnov.net> master * r47fdf00a77 ffmpeg/libavformat/avidec.c:
[14:13:51] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: avidec: simplify read_gab2_sub
[14:13:51] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Use avio functions instead of bytestream ones (also drops dependency on
[14:13:51] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: lavc and removes a bunch of warnings).
[14:13:51] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Drop custom version of avio_get_str16 and use that instead.
[14:13:52] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Tested on mewmew-ssa.avi sample.
[14:13:52] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Signed-off-by: Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje at gmail.com>
[14:13:54] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje at gmail.com> master * r69ff149204 ffmpeg/libavformat/oggparseskeleton.c:
[14:13:54] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Fix compile warning.
[14:13:54] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Change int64_t into a int, which caused this compiler warning:
[14:13:55] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: libavformat/oggparseskeleton.c:64: warning: passing argument 2 of ‘av_reduce’ from incompatible pointer type
[14:13:55] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Kostya Shishkov <kostya.shishkov at gmail.com> master * r44ddfd47d6 ffmpeg/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
[14:13:56] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Xan4 decoder
[14:13:56] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Signed-off-by: Ronald S. Bultje <rsbultje at gmail.com>
[14:14:00] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Reimar Döffinger <Reimar.Doeffinger at gmx.de> master * r95ec3d4cac ffmpeg/libavformat/matroskadec.c: (log message trimmed)
[14:14:00] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: matroskadec: add generic element length validation.
[14:14:00] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: This validate the length of a mkv element directly after reading
[14:14:00] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: it.
[14:14:01] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: This has the advantage that it is easy to add new limits and makes
[14:14:04] <Dark_Shikari> so you're saying that you won't ban anyone from the ML for any reason?
[14:14:09] <Dark_Shikari> great.  what a useful moderator.
[14:14:12] <benoit-> "someone" pushed his tree :)
[14:14:28] <benoit-> Dark_Shikari: that's not the only part of moderation
[14:14:29] * Dark_Shikari facepalms at the current roots.
[14:14:44] <benoit-> Dark_Shikari: I won't do that if I were you though... :)
[14:14:52] <BBB> benoit-: that would be me (the tree-pusher)
[14:14:55] <Dark_Shikari> do what?
[14:15:10] <benoit-> yes, there could be reason to ban, but trolling the way it is today is not *that* bad
[14:15:25] <benoit-> there have been worse times anyway
[14:15:35] <ubitux> please guys, ban Gabor from posting on ffmpeg-devel, he is really annoying…
[14:15:49] <Dark_Shikari> ubitux: they don't believe in moderation
[14:15:51] <Dark_Shikari> sorry
[14:15:58] <Dark_Shikari> if you want to have a useful list for discussing such topics, make your own
[14:16:02] <Dark_Shikari> ffmpeg-devel is for trolls only
[14:16:03] <mru> ok, since so many of you are asking for it, I'll do it
[14:16:15] <Dark_Shikari> note: I'm also fine with "moderating every post" of a particular person
[14:16:20] <Dark_Shikari> but that puts a lot of extra demand on the moderator
[14:16:26] <Dark_Shikari> and is useless if the moderator doesn't get to the queue often
[14:16:32] <BBB> please ban or moderate gabor, +1
[14:16:39] <merbzt> I consider his posts as disruption of services
[14:16:43] <BBB> I'm so sick of these .hu trolls - never any patches and always the last word
[14:16:47] <Dark_Shikari> so we have... 5 votes so far?
[14:16:51] <Dark_Shikari> =p
[14:16:52] <BBB> ban him
[14:16:56] <merbzt> so I'm in favor of unsubscribing him
[14:16:59] <ubitux> he hasn't made a single useful commit, and afaik he isn't a ffmpeg developer
[14:17:01] <mru> gabu is now on forced moderation
[14:17:04] <Dark_Shikari> \o/
[14:17:06] <elenril> \o/
[14:17:08] <BBB> mru: thank you
[14:17:10] <Dark_Shikari> see that was easy
[14:17:12] <ubitux> thank you too.
[14:17:12] <cartman> wtf is ubifs
[14:17:20] <av500> cartman: a flash fs
[14:17:25] <mru> cartman: ubifs is a filesystem for raw flash devices
[14:17:25] <kshishkov> BBB: there's Alex who actually contributed (and not seen lately)
[14:17:26] <benoit-> Dark_Shikari: nobody said that was hard
[14:17:34] <cartman> av500, mru ah
[14:17:34] <BBB> kshishkov: I didn't ask to ban him
[14:17:35] <BBB> kshishkov: :-p
[14:17:37] <mru> cartman: some say it's better and less buggy than yaffs2
[14:17:42] <av500> it is
[14:17:50] <cartman> mru: is it read only? Can't seem to remount rw.
[14:17:56] <mru> it is rw
[14:18:04] <twnqx> http://pastebin.com/7qLfJVFr does any of you have an idea what this could be?
[14:18:04] <av500> cartman: kernel might prevent that
[14:18:07] <cartman> okies
[14:18:11] <kshishkov> BBB: so there is one sane Hungarian MPlayer dev
[14:18:12] <cartman> av500: probably :/
[14:18:29] <merbzt> we should add disruption of services and personal insults as reasons for unsubscription/moderation
[14:18:32] <Dark_Shikari> kshishkov: which one?
[14:18:40] <kshishkov> Dark_Shikari: Alex
[14:18:43] <Dark_Shikari> which alex?
[14:18:46] <Dark_Shikari> there are so many alexes
[14:18:53] <kshishkov> Hungarian Alex
[14:19:08] <mru> the only sane hungarian
[14:19:11] <Dark_Shikari> Converse?
[14:19:18] <Dark_Shikari> Oh
[14:19:19] <av500> hungarian
[14:19:27] <Dark_Shikari> Kojevnikov?
[14:19:29] <av500> not hungry american
[14:19:30] <kshishkov> Beregszasi
[14:19:36] <mru> al3x on irc
[14:19:44] <Dark_Shikari> his last commit was 2007...
[14:19:46] <cartman> QDM Alex
[14:19:51] <cartman> ;)
[14:21:16] <kshishkov> Dark_Shikari: but he wrote your favourite TTA decoder
[14:21:25] <jannau> Is someone going to post to the ml that gabu is on moderation? I think we should even if it's an invite for a troll fest
[14:21:32] <jannau> I'll do it
[14:22:03] <cartman> jannau: uhm no need to fire the flames
[14:22:05] <Dark_Shikari> kshishkov: lol TTA
[14:22:10] <Dark_Shikari> jannau: no, don't
[14:22:18] <Dark_Shikari> moderation should be rare and silent.
[14:22:21] <kshishkov> Dark_Shikari: APE then
[14:23:38] <jannau> Dark_Shikari: I understand that but we should at least aanounce that we aren't willing to accept personal insults and disruptive trolling on the mailing lists
[14:24:00] <cartman> <2>[13925.430053] UBIFS assert failed in dbg_dump_budg at 613 (pid 2661)
[14:24:05] <cartman> stable, lulz
[14:25:37] <Dark_Shikari> jannau: maybe.  that should be obvious though.
[14:25:44] <Dark_Shikari> .... though it might not be, given that it took so long
[14:26:24] <spaam> cartman: did you fix that clang bug?
[14:26:51] <cartman> spaam: pinpointed the revision, waiting for a response
[14:27:00] <cartman> reduced the testcase too
[14:27:38] <spaam> cartman: i saw that.. but have _you_ fixed that bug yet?
[14:28:08] <cartman> spaam: do I look like a compiler guy from there?
[14:28:24] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Jindrich Makovicka <makovick at gmail.com> master * r5bea615dc3 ffmpeg/libavcodec/dvbsubdec.c: (log message trimmed)
[14:28:24] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: dvbsubdec: pass correct input buffer size
[14:28:24] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: In some places, dvbsubdec passes improper input buffer size to
[14:28:24] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: bitstream reading functions, not accounting for reading pointer
[14:28:24] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: updates.
[14:28:24] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Fixed by using buffer_end - buffer pointer instead of fixed buffer length.
[14:28:25] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Signed-off-by: Jindrich Makovicka <makovick at gmail.com>
[14:28:49] <spaam> cartman: yes..  more then mru does, when he talks about stuff like that :)
[14:29:05] <cartman> spaam: I just like clang :P
[14:29:40] <spaam> cartman: time to learn how to fix things in it :D
[14:30:28] <cartman> spaam: I did fix an asm bug :P
[14:31:02] <spaam> Nice :)
[14:31:37] <elenril> meh, now i have to recompile everything
[14:31:39] * elenril blames kshishkov 
[14:32:14] <elenril> so...where are all the people who wanted to remove half of avcodeccontext
[14:32:30] <cartman> Did you do security audit in new codec code or are you waiting for independent security people? :)
[14:33:17] <cartman> http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/38311/android-2-4-april-release-date
[14:33:18] <cartman> nice
[14:34:22] <Dark_Shikari> elenril: hi
[14:35:28] <elenril> Dark_Shikari: stop procrastinating and start deprecating stuff =p
[14:36:23] <siretart> FYI: I have a patch that merges avcore into libavutil on my laptop now
[14:36:42] <siretart> I'm running some additional tests to make sure it doesn't break anything, but so far it looks promising
[14:36:45] <spaam> elenril: poor thing.. when will you learn how to answer an e-mail? ;P
[14:37:01] * elenril stabs spaam 
[14:37:27] <spaam> noo : (
[14:40:16] <kshishkov> spaam: just grow some flesh and his stabs won't relly hurt you
[14:40:29] <kshishkov> spaam: or at least use av500 as shield
[14:41:57] <cartman> siretart: step 0. l
[14:42:07] <cartman> siretart: step 0. kill the one who proposed libavcore split
[14:42:21] * siretart is a pacifist
[14:42:41] <siretart> but I take that as agreement to the proposed merge
[14:42:58] <siretart> hm. boarding in 8 minutes. I guess I should leave now
[14:43:01] <siretart> see you later!
[14:43:11] <cartman> av500: are you building 2.4 images yet?
[14:43:12] <kshishkov> hej då
[14:43:16] <wbs> mru, or any other with push access to the repo: care to commit the approved movie source filter that stefano has worked on for ages? it was approved by michael sometime last week
[14:43:35] <kshishkov> wbs: there was that BBB guy pushing stuff
[14:43:44] <wbs> if he had some libavfilter-subsystem-repo, that one would be on the "please merge to master"-list
[14:44:02] <kshishkov> maybe we'll have it
[14:44:12] <spaam> kshishkov: hej då :)
[14:44:38] <Compn> Dark_Shikari : if people are biting trolls, you should mail them and tell them to stop biting
[14:44:55] <mru> or pull their teeth out
[14:45:01] <kshishkov> spaam: skicka hundra Trocadero flaskor till mig, är du snall?
[14:45:25] * Compn thinks its strange that Dark_Shikari lives in one of the only free-speech countries in the world and yet wants to ban people for speaking...
[14:45:44] <cartman> Compn: thats not surprising
[14:45:52] <mru> it's not a free-trolling country
[14:46:02] <ohsix> ++
[14:46:03] <cartman> neither free tolling one
[14:46:03] <Dark_Shikari> Compn: it's a private mailing list
[14:46:06] <Compn> yes it is :P
[14:46:08] <Dark_Shikari> there is no free speech in a private list
[14:46:16] <cartman> uh oh :)
[14:46:31] <mru> nobody suggested shutting down his blog
[14:46:33] <Compn> yes thats a dumb argument tho
[14:46:47] <mru> if he wants to troll, he can do it there
[14:47:12] <Compn> hes not being off-topic, which i could see being a bannable offense :P
[14:47:12] <mru> disruptive behaviour gets you thrown out of many places
[14:47:25] <Dark_Shikari> ffmpeg-devel is for development
[14:47:26] <Dark_Shikari> he isn't developing
[14:47:29] <Dark_Shikari> therefore, he gets kicked
[14:47:29] <Dark_Shikari> end of story
[14:47:49] <Dark_Shikari> moreso: he isn't developing, isn't planning on developing, and never did develop.
[14:48:09] <jannau> Compn: he called me a racist
[14:48:16] <Compn> lol
[14:48:23] <Dark_Shikari> lol
[14:48:24] <Compn> jannau : then you got trolled
[14:48:29] <cartman> kids
[14:48:30] <Dark_Shikari> You're not a racist
[14:48:30] <mru> afaik there is no hungarian race
[14:48:32] <Dark_Shikari> YOU'RE A NAZI
[14:48:36] <Dark_Shikari> EVIL NAZIS
[14:48:49] <Dark_Shikari> mru: People who confuse "race" and "nationality" are pretty funny.
[14:48:51] <av500> Compn: so this is on topic: ""We're not your nanny", so take your pissing problems elsewhere. Preferably to a urologist."
[14:48:55] <Compn> the project needs people who arent devels you know. (i'm not saying it needs trolls, but to ignore non-developers is an insult really)
[14:49:11] <Dark_Shikari> testing is developing
[14:49:13] <Dark_Shikari> reporting bugs is developing
[14:49:22] <Dark_Shikari> just because it isn't writing code doesn't make it not development
[14:49:29] <Compn> gabu used to run the site ...
[14:49:38] <mru> no
[14:49:43] <mru> that was mplayer
[14:49:58] <kshishkov> av500: that's genderism
[14:50:02] <Compn> did ffmpeg use mplayer's incoming dir ?
[14:50:05] <Compn> heh
[14:50:14] <Compn> nevermind, i can see i'm not getting anywhere
[14:50:21] * Compn knows when to quit
[14:50:40] <av500> Compn: "the project needs people who arent devels you know" and these ppl are gabu? well, good luck
[14:50:58] <Compn> av500 misses the second sentence directly after that sentence
[14:51:02] <Compn> well done
[14:51:26] <av500> Compn: "(i'm not saying it needs trolls" ? :)
[14:51:37] <Compn> yes
[14:51:47] <av500> and wrt "ignoring", I dont mind him unless he insults ppl on the ML
[14:51:50] <av500> which he does
[14:52:07] <Compn> trolls only have power when you give it to them
[14:52:22] <av500> Compn: which of his latest utterances do you consider "valuable"?
[14:53:09] <Compn> he reported a problem with mphq blocking half of hungary on 1-28-11
[14:53:29] <Compn> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:07:17 +0100, Berczi Gabor wrote:
[14:53:33] <av500> i know
[14:53:41] <Compn> well i consider that valuable
[14:53:47] <av500> "And the FUCK goes right back to you, for banning half of Hungary (amongst others) from accessing mplayerhq."
[14:53:47] <Compn> to getting it fixed
[14:53:50] <mru> blocking trolls is valuable, yes
[14:53:51] <av500> nicely said
[14:54:06] <cartman> av500: clear words
[14:54:10] <av500> if that was his issue, he could have said that ages ago
[14:54:37] <av500> people and countries have been unblocked by asking nicely here on irc
[14:54:45] <Compn> i think gabu offered a host for ffmpeg as well, in his mail on 2-4-11
[14:54:55] <jannau> or by sending a mail
[14:54:55] <mru> rotfl
[14:55:00] <cartman> wbs: I posted a sample, playing video (via Intent) from JNI, now people won't have to ask for it :P
[14:55:13] <av500> url?
[14:55:20] <cartman> av500: no way showing you :P
[14:56:45] <Compn> av500 : are you satisfied with those two valuable mails or no?
[14:57:18] <av500> Compn: FUCK YOU, they are of great value! :)
[14:57:27] <av500> did I word that OK?
[14:57:37] <cartman> must be something nice in Hungarian
[14:57:44] <cartman> all caps, all lovin'
[14:57:48] <av500> Compn: maybe you see my point?
[14:58:34] <Compn> that was in reply to a fuck you from KotH ... and yet no one calls KotH a troll :P
[14:58:47] <mru> KotH is not a troll
[14:58:49] <cartman> KotH is a beloved Turko
[14:58:53] <Compn> hehe
[14:58:54] <mru> he's a swiss turk
[14:58:56] * Compn trolling now
[14:59:06] <kshishkov> mru: says British Swede
[14:59:07] <cartman> sounds like a swiss knife
[14:59:09] <cartman> must be good
[14:59:33] <KotH> Compn: i know that we block a .hu isp.. i banned him myself, after 2 weeks of hunting down this fucking shit head who thought that he can download each and every file on natsuki there is
[14:59:39] <av500> Compn: right, Koth came out of hiding on the ML and started insulting people....
[14:59:55] <Compn> KotH : yeah i understand the samples nightmare you deal with. i didnt say it was wrong to ban it
[15:00:02] <Compn> and i thank you for doing the admin
[15:00:06] <kshishkov> cartman: that's because you've never heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mora_knife
[15:00:10] <Compn> i'm just using that example of a bugreport
[15:00:22] <av500> kshishkov: in fact, I have :)
[15:00:26] <mru> kshishkov: those make nice kid's toys
[15:00:36] * mru thought so at least
[15:00:50] <mru> av500: do you let your kids play with knives?
[15:00:57] <cartman> kshishkov: nice
[15:01:05] <kshishkov> mru: with Mora knives precisely
[15:01:08] <cartman> kids stab av500 for the fun of it
[15:01:24] <kshishkov> cartman: nope, none of them is called elenril
[15:01:39] <cartman> av500 should adopt elenril for starters
[15:01:41] <cartman> :P
[15:02:01] <av500> cartman: want me to say the p word again?
[15:02:12] <cartman> av500: point taken!
[15:02:15] * cartman shuts up
[15:02:26] <KotH> Compn: i dont really get what you are complaining about then
[15:02:58] <mru> KotH: Compn is just trolling
[15:03:25] * av500 Compnlains about that!
[15:03:37] <KotH> mru: i dont consider Compn a troll, so i'm inclined to listen to his complaints
[15:04:14] <Compn> KotH : just saying that gabu brought up some valuable comments on the list and it wouldnt be good to ban that
[15:04:25] <kshishkov> KotH: that's because you don't implement missing decoders he usually complains about!
[15:04:27] <Compn> some even if its only one or two comments
[15:04:50] <Compn> kshishkov : you know everyone else bugs you about bink, but i never do :P
[15:05:11] <KotH> Compn: ah...
[15:05:22] <KotH> Compn: well.. i dont think he contributed in even one point
[15:05:55] <av500> he has a nice way of packaging up valuable comments
[15:05:55] <KotH> Compn: as i said, i know that certain networks cannot reach natsuki at all. but this is known to us and wanted taht way
[15:06:12] <kshishkov> av500: s/valuable/fertilizing/
[15:06:29] <Compn> KotH : yeah, i know . is it possible to just ban those networks from samples repo ?
[15:06:43] <KotH> Compn: DonDiego is working on that
[15:06:45] <Compn> ah good
[15:06:51] <Compn> i think he mentioned that before :)
[15:16:05] <mru> av500: http://www.joystiq.com/2011/02/06/video-angry-birds-played-in-real-life/
[15:44:33] <BBB> mru: what's up with your neon vp8 stuff?
[15:45:36] <mru> BBB: I was hoping someone might look at it
[15:45:49] <mru> I know you had a look, but you said you don't know much neon...
[15:57:34] <kshishkov> mru: I said it looked ok and you clarified one point to me
[15:58:22] <BBB> mru: I don't think I can say much more than that :) kshishkov, merbanan etc. are better people to look at it in detail than me
[15:58:36] <mru> kshishkov: I don't see any replies from you in that thread...
[15:58:40] <BBB> does ANYONE in this channel have win64 and can lend me ssh access?
[15:58:54] <BBB> win64=mingw64 that can build and run ffmpeg and fate
[15:59:06] <BBB> mru: commit http://patches.ffmpeg.org/patch/688/ also ?
[16:01:24] <elenril> BBB: didn't you say -mt was ready?
[16:01:30] <BBB> it is
[16:01:37] <BBB> I said several times that we should commit it
[16:01:46] <BBB> I'm waiting for others to actually read the patch
[16:01:48] <elenril> why don't you do it then?
[16:02:31] <BBB> I'm affraid of .hu trolls coming in and saying I'm unfairly biased in my reviews
[16:03:09] <elenril> michaelni could read it instead of flaming
[16:03:15] <kierank> BBB: seriously?
[16:03:26] <BBB> michaelni was nitpicking on the doxy
[16:03:42] <BBB> at least I tried to help fixing fate-under-mt
[16:03:56] <BBB> let's do a vote
[16:04:01] <BBB> who's inf avour of me applying -mt now?
[16:05:19] <elenril> .....*silence*......
[16:05:31] <av500> wasnt votes stupid?
[16:05:32] * av500 hides
[16:05:56] <elenril> yeah, votes are stupid, just apply it and see if people flame you ;)
[16:07:46] <spaam> BBB: how many tests does fail with -mt ?
[16:16:17] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Mans Rullgard <mans at mansr.com> master * ra1c1d3c003 ffmpeg/libavcodec/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[16:16:17] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: VP8: ARM NEON optimisations for dsp functions
[16:16:17] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: This adds NEON optimised versions of all functions in VP8DSPContext.
[16:16:17] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Based on initial work by Rob Clark.
[16:16:17] <CIA-38> ffmpeg: Signed-off-by: Mans Rullgard <mans at mansr.com>
[16:16:29] <Orphis> Hi there, I'm wondering, are there any requirements in order to make a fate test computer that reports to the main fate server ?
[16:16:43] <av500> yes, you need to set one up
[16:17:09] <Orphis> I mean does it have to be online 24h/24 ?
[16:17:13] <av500> no
[16:17:18] <av500> but it would be nice
[16:17:22] <Orphis> Sure ^^
[16:17:28] <av500> since one can spot broken commits faster
[16:17:36] <av500> what kind of machine is it?
[16:17:41] <Orphis> Win64 :P
[16:17:44] <mru> the more often it runs, the better
[16:17:51] <mru> \o/ we need that
[16:18:07] <Orphis> I know, I've just read Ronald message on the mailing list
[16:19:21] <Orphis> I would be my personnal computer that stays on like 24h/24, it could run test during my work hours and night
[16:19:26] <Orphis> Better than nothing
[16:19:45] <mru> anything is better than nothing
[16:20:41] <Orphis> Since I've been following the ML for months without doing anything productive, it would be my way to help
[16:21:02] <mru> all ways are welcome
[16:22:02] <Orphis> I hoped it would be coding-wise, but I haven't got the time to do anything with all my side projects :-/
[16:23:10] <merbzt> bad Orphis
[16:23:24] <Orphis> I know merbzt ! But you won't let me help :p
[16:23:28] <merbzt> :)
[16:24:38] <Orphis> And I've got plenty of things to do in the emulator, now we've added automatic decryption of games, lots of optimizations on the 3D renderer and have more and more complex games running FASTER
[16:25:17] <elenril> what emulator?
[16:25:19] <Orphis> And we've discovered bugs^Wfeatures of the CPU we didn't think about
[16:25:29] <Orphis> Jpcsp, PSP emulator, sadly written in Java
[16:26:13] <Orphis> But we've made the God of War games running at playable speeds just recently
[16:26:58] <Orphis> Anyway...
[16:27:02] <elenril> nice
[16:27:11] <Orphis> mru: Do you have a guide on how to setup a Fate machine ?
[16:27:12] <elenril> there's about one psp game i wanted to play
[16:27:21] <Orphis> Patapon ? Locoroco ?
[16:27:25] <av500> tetris?
[16:27:28] <elenril> crisis core
[16:27:35] <Orphis> It's been working for months
[16:28:05] <elenril> good to hear
[16:28:08] <Orphis> We even play the movies with a java ffmpeg binding directly :p
[16:28:46] <Orphis> And if you're on Windows, you can have an atrac3+ decoder to play most sounds ingame
[16:29:03] * elenril isn't
[16:29:04] <BBB> mru: \o/
[16:29:22] <mru> BBB: still 2 to go
[16:29:23] <BBB> spaam: none fail, I fixed all that failed
[16:29:35] <BBB> spaam: if tests fail, we debug them and fix them, what else are tests for? :)
[16:29:48] <BBB> spaam: it's not like h264 decoding or mpeg decoding and MT are incompatible or something
[16:31:40] <elenril> but only generic api is to be committed, right?
[16:31:58] <elenril> not h264 parts
[16:32:16] <BBB> h264 parts is part of that patch
[16:32:20] <BBB> also mpeg
[16:32:26] <BBB> vp3 is separate I believe
[16:32:29] <BBB> check the patch
[16:32:32] <elenril> wow, it's better than i thought
[16:33:00] <Compn> Orphis : oooo psp emu?? nice. what about lumines ?
[16:33:00] <elenril> commit it now and we can write a news entry/slashdot/etc
[16:33:03] <BBB> hm not this patch
[16:33:14] <BBB> the patch I had, included h264 and mpeg also
[16:33:19] <BBB> he didn't merge them into his patch :(
[16:33:37] * Compn should just checkout emu's homepage for compat page
[16:33:39] <Orphis> Compn: It has been working, although it's not tested regularly and might be broken in latest rev
[16:33:47] <Compn> doh
[16:33:56] <spaam> BBB: ahh Nice nice :)
[16:33:58] * Compn doesnt know psp games
[16:33:59] <Orphis> No, the compat page has never been updated, really
[16:34:17] <Compn> Orphis : ehe, you need a fate like automatic tester :)
[16:34:52] <Orphis> Lumines video in the emulator : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DQOOktmavI
[16:35:07] <Orphis> But no way to see what version that was
[16:35:22] <BBB> vp3, mimic (?), huffyuv, h264 and h263 (mpeg)
[16:35:28] <BBB> but they're all separate patches
[16:35:50] <Compn> BBB : probably you need michael to review all that :P
[16:36:02] * Compn not paying attention
[16:36:04] <BBB> I reviewed it already
[16:36:07] <BBB> I also debugged it all
[16:36:10] <BBB> it works now :)
[16:36:19] <Compn> valgrind and fuzz too? :P
[16:36:22] <Compn> or that comes later ?
[16:36:44] <Kovensky> 13:25.30 Orphis: Jpcsp, PSP emulator, sadly written in Java <-- "I heard you like emulators so we put an emulator on your emulator..."
[16:36:47] <Kovensky> though java isn't exactly emulated, it sorta is since it's JIT compiled
[16:36:49] * Compn forgets if we are on a commitnow-valgrindlater or valgrind-fuzz-now--testlater
[16:37:17] <Orphis> We even run a NES emulator fine in ours :p
[16:37:35] <BBB> astrange: ping - what would you like me to do? I'm fine with the patch, shall I commit? When will you submit the rest (h263/mpeg, h264, stuff-i-dont-use) for review?
[16:37:49] <BBB> astrange: also, thanks!!!!!!!!
[16:38:40] <Orphis> Hmm, all the doc about setting up a fate machine seems to be in /doc, checking it right now
[16:38:55] * Compn still sad that no one bothers to work on dreamcast emulator :P
[16:40:35] <Orphis> Compn: There chankast and nulldc :p
[16:41:32] <Compn> oh i thought nulldc was dead, now i see it on google code :)
[16:41:36] <Orphis> I think the only successful console that haven't been emulated are the xbox, xbox360 and ps3
[16:42:03] <elenril> i've heard pcsx2 doesn't work all that well either
[16:42:06] <elenril> (yet)
[16:42:18] <Kovensky> the mac port is terrible =p
[16:42:37] <Orphis> pcsx2 works well on Windows
[16:42:57] <Orphis> And Linux 32 I think
[16:43:25] <Kovensky> the mac port uses GTK1
[16:43:30] <Orphis> They have lots of 32bit centric code for performance
[16:43:35] <Kovensky> and the only sound plugin available has huge delay
[16:44:38] <Orphis> I haven't tested it on my Mac since my other computer is way more powerful
[16:44:56] <Compn> ah didnt know the ps2 emu was successful
[16:45:02] <Compn> thats coo
[16:46:41] * Compn should try out gitaroo man
[16:47:27] <Orphis> And the GC/Wii emulator is cool too
[16:47:53] <Orphis> Lots of hard workers on it too
[16:48:13] * Compn is happy to know emulation is still going strong
[16:50:10] <Orphis> It won't be able to emulate the 360 or PS3 properly though
[16:51:01] <mru> speed will be a problem, if nothing else
[16:52:03] <Orphis> A BIG problem :p
[16:53:10] <Orphis> It might be possible to emulate properly the xenon from the 360. But the PS3's Cell...
[16:54:08] <mru> emulate it on a hacked ps3
[16:57:21] <Orphis> How big are the fate samples ?
[16:58:27] <mru> about 400MB
[17:02:29] <Orphis> Ok, thanks
[17:06:15] <Orphis> Is Ronald S. Bultje on IRC by the way ?
[17:06:36] * mru glares at BBB 
[17:07:59] <Orphis> BBB: What do you need beside an SSH access to the Win64 machine ?
[17:12:56] <jannau> Orphis: have you found http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=FATE already
[17:13:53] <Orphis> Found it too ;)
[17:40:26] <BBB> Orphis: hi, I'd like mingw64 installed, a shell, ideally you reporting to fate from the same system (but on a different account), and all build tools installed
[17:40:46] <BBB> is orphis daniel verkamp?
[17:40:51] <Orphis> No
[17:41:17] <Orphis> But I've seen your request and thought I could help
[17:41:20] <BBB> also, if you can install build tools for mingw32 also, that's even better
[17:41:26] <Orphis> Yup
[17:41:43] <BBB> help would be fantastic, I used to have a win64 box but it's not on fate anymore :(
[17:41:56] <Orphis> I have both on my computer
[17:41:57] <BBB> "used to have" = "had a shell/ssh account on", not "owned" :-p
[17:42:53] <BBB> do you have RDP?
[17:42:58] <BBB> RDP would be even nicer
[17:43:01] <Orphis> I worked on a simple java binding for ffmpeg for my emulator that would work in a 64bit jvm, not complete but I've already compiled it
[17:43:27] <Orphis> That's my personnal computer, so...
[17:44:01] <BBB> hm, that sucks a little, running fate continuously will suck the life out of it
[17:44:16] <BBB> do you mind if we run cpu-intensive crap on the background regularly?
[17:44:32] <Orphis> I don't
[17:44:42] <Orphis> I suggested to run it during the night and work hours
[17:45:05] <Orphis> And I'll buy a sandy bridge soon so I might retire this machine
[17:46:40] <BBB> awesome :)
[17:46:41] <Orphis> And honestly, even if it was problematic during the day (which I doubt, except on weekends), I could always run it once a day, even if there's some latency, it's better than nothing
[17:46:53] <BBB> absolutely
[17:47:26] <elenril> BBB: did you see reimar's mail?
[17:47:36] <BBB> if you can set it up so that I have an account with all development tools installed, and access to the fate samples somewhere, and write me an email/privmsg with the login credentials and so on, I'll fix the emu_edge win64 failures
[17:47:39] <Orphis> I'm just waiting april for the new bugfree motherboards to buy it
[17:47:40] <BBB> elenril: which one?
[17:47:44] <elenril> the -mt one
[17:47:50] <elenril> i read it as an ok
[17:47:53] <Orphis> What username would you like ?
[17:47:54] <BBB> elenril: I'm awaiting for astrange to tell me when he'll submit h264/h263 patches
[17:47:58] <BBB> Orphis: rbultje
[17:48:34] <BBB> elenril: mt w/o h264/h263 support could be read as us having preferential treatment for theora
[17:48:40] <elenril> lol
[17:48:47] <BBB> elenril: not sure if I want to be a PR penguin yet
[17:48:52] <elenril> slashdot will love you for that ;)
[18:07:49] <av500> BBB: elenril: old news: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1907357
[18:29:04] <j-b> 'lo
[18:31:29] <mru> hi j-b
[18:32:29] <av500> +1
[18:36:22] <j-b> all back well? /me readies for 2 days of trolling about <video> for W3C...
[18:39:58] <av500> j-b: u in berlin?
[18:40:09] <j-b> av500: yes.
[18:40:21] <av500> jannau: ^^^
[18:40:34] <j-b> av500: there was this nice trolling opportunity, you see... I couldn't say no :)
[18:40:35] <av500> jannau: there is a lost and confused french guy near you
[18:41:21] <av500> j-b: dont try public transport, its fake
[18:41:32] <j-b> av500: I tried...
[18:41:47] <j-b> av500: from schonefeld airport...
[18:42:04] <j-b> a stupid idea it was
[18:42:08] <av500> :)
[18:45:38] <mru> doesn't it have s-bahn?
[18:45:51] <jannau> schönefeld airport is even with non-public transport a stupid idea
[18:46:08] <mru> TXL isn't all too bad
[18:46:10] <jannau> yes, but the s-bahn is broken since 2 years
[18:46:16] <mru> would be better if it had rail connection
[18:46:29] <mru> _working_ rail
[18:47:32] <av500> mru: we are speaking about the capital of western ukraine here
[18:47:46] <mru> I thought it was north turkey
[18:48:16] <av500> same
[18:48:27] <j-b> av500: it is even more "not-in-english" than Paris...
[18:48:54] <av500> mru: its cold in winter, hot and humid in summer, broke and full of cartmans
[18:49:13] <jannau> instead of fixing it they will close it after (or more likely even before) schoenefeld becomes berlin-brandenburg international
[18:50:17] <jannau> tempelhof was nice, it was in walking distance
[18:50:27] <av500> yep
[18:50:34] <av500> I landed there once in a small plane
[18:50:35] <av500> fun
[18:51:36] <j-b> Schoenefeld is a mess. And a fucking mess to come back to town.
[18:51:38] <wbs> j-b: when I was in berlin, most of the people I spoke to switched to english even if I tried to speak german ;P
[18:51:49] <wbs> I guess that was mostly along tourist routes, but still
[18:51:58] <j-b> wbs: are you _that_ bad?
[18:52:09] <wbs> j-b: apparently ;P
[18:52:23] <mru> Flameeyes: ping
[18:53:22] <jannau> j-b: if you're up to some german beer after the belgian ping me
[18:55:35] <av500> waldmeister!
[18:55:36] <jannau> english skills vary of course with education and age but it should be hard to find people who understand english but refuse to talk
[18:55:52] <jannau> berliner weiße
[18:56:44] <Flameeyes> mru: pong
[18:56:47] <j-b> jannau: sure, I am. But I am not near the center, since I am near Fraunhoffer, near Moabit
[18:57:15] <mru> Flameeyes: can you please search your deps database for anything using libavutil but not any other libav*
[18:57:46] <Flameeyes> mru: will take a bit and I'm on the phone but I'll soonish tell you
[18:57:55] <mru> no rush
[18:59:48] <jannau> j-b: near Heinrich Hertz Institute? that's near center of west berlin
[19:00:00] <Flameeyes> mru: I can tell you that xine-lib-1.2 would be among those ... but that's quite a strange situation
[19:00:22] <mru> what does it use for video?
[19:00:57] * jannau guesses internal libavcodec copy
[19:01:08] <mru> then it doesn't count
[19:01:26] <Flameeyes> mru: xine-lib-1.2 (never released) uses libavcodec on a plugin, and libavutil on main lib
[19:02:00] <Flameeyes> but tbh I don't think xine counts too much there, I have already described the situation about its life to Diego and Reinhard last year
[19:02:24] <j-b> did you write it down?
[19:02:26] <Flameeyes> hm actually to get that data I need a working tinderbox, now it isn't
[19:02:32] <Flameeyes> j-b: don't think so, was meaning to
[19:02:54] <mru> Flameeyes: would be nice to have hard facts, that's all
[19:04:18] <elenril> michaelni: does your "veto" mean that you're acknowledging the new structure and stopping your unproductive flames?
[19:04:22] <Compn> so xine is still developed ?
[19:04:43] <Flameeyes> Compn: that's the point :) it isn't really
[19:04:47] <Compn> ah
[19:04:55] <mru> nor used, I presume
[19:05:08] <Flameeyes> it seems to be still slightly used
[19:05:26] <Flameeyes> but the design of xine was so much messed up that's not really worth maintaining, imho
[19:05:26] <mru> used as in "used car"?
[19:08:18] <Compn> lots of people use totem still
[19:08:26] <Flameeyes> and totem has dropped xine backend years ago
[19:08:30] <Compn> ah
[19:08:31] <ohsix> ^
[19:08:39] <Compn> everyone on gstreamer now ?
[19:08:46] <Compn> cept ... mplayer
[19:08:46] <elenril> except mplayer
[19:08:47] <Flameeyes> gstreamer, vlc, mplayer
[19:08:48] <ohsix> now if they'd just ditch baconvideowidget and go native
[19:09:18] <Compn> totem uses mplayer as a backend ? funny, i dont remember any patches from them
[19:09:29] <ohsix> xine was only in totem to do dvd stuff; and that concern went away like 5 or 6 years ago
[19:09:30] <Flameeyes> no totem uses gstreamer
[19:09:35] <Compn> oh :P
[19:09:41] <Flameeyes> i mean in general, people use one of those three
[19:09:41] <saintdev> even phonon has finally (optionally) dropped xine
[19:09:46] * Compn is full of outdated information
[19:09:56] <elenril> what about amarok
[19:09:56] <Flameeyes> xine is simply.. unfixable for a big part
[19:10:01] * elenril recalls it using xine
[19:10:06] <Flameeyes> elenril: amarok uses phonon since version 2
[19:10:16] <Flameeyes> which can use xine or gstreamer or (recently) vlc
[19:10:23] <elenril> yay, more wrappers
[19:10:34] * elenril <3 wrappers
[19:10:35] <Kovensky> 16:08.26 Flameeyes: and totem has dropped xine backend years ago <-- last time I checked a bunch of distros still had xine as the default phonon backend
[19:10:37] <saintdev> and as of kde4.6 xine is finally optional \o/
[19:10:46] <Flameeyes> Kovensky: phonon!=totem
[19:10:52] <saintdev> Kovensky: what does totem have to do with phonon?
[19:10:52] <Kovensky> bad quote
[19:10:54] <Kovensky> but you get the idea
[19:11:07] <j-b> Kovensky: no, since 4.6, xine isn't the default one
[19:11:08] <Kovensky> the intention of the quote was to hilight "xine backend" not "totem" :X
[19:11:10] <Compn> And so with all of that in mind, and with a spare weekend to hack, I thought I'd try making a very simple build system; conceptually very similar to Make, but without hardly any features.
[19:11:17] <Compn> oh you evil google bastards
[19:11:19] <j-b> and in  4.5, they advised vlc backend
[19:11:26] <Compn> http://martine.github.com/ninja/manual.html
[19:11:37] <Flameeyes> Kovensky: I was involved in the original implementation of the xine/phonon backend
[19:11:40] <Flameeyes> and found it a nasty hack
[19:12:00] <ohsix> sniggle; and of phonon?
[19:12:04] <j-b> 20:09 < ohsix> xine was only in totem to do dvd stuff; and that concern went away like 5 or 6 years ago
[19:12:10] <j-b> ohsix: clearly not
[19:12:15] <Kovensky> Flameeyes: lol
[19:12:20] <j-b> togst was able to use DVD only last year.
[19:12:23] <saintdev> i always wondered why they choose xine for phonon
[19:12:37] <ohsix> j-b: lol what
[19:12:49] <j-b> ohsix: yes.
[19:13:00] <ohsix> what's "togst"?
[19:13:07] <j-b> totem-gst
[19:13:11] <j-b> soryr
[19:13:32] <ohsix> well i was using dvdnav with totem way before that, i don't know your circumstances
[19:15:46] <ohsix> though there was a broken week or so where dvd titles wouldn't start; but it had nothing to do with navigation or really even dvd stuff, but subpictures in the stream, and i reported it \m/
[19:18:31] <BBB> please stop dicscussing gst here
[19:18:34] <BBB> get your own room :-p
[19:18:59] <elenril> yeah, let's discuss you committing -mt
[19:19:39] <Compn> did anyone fuzz/valgrind -mt ? :P
[19:20:02] <BBB> there's a valgrind fate machine
[19:20:04] <BBB> that's sufficient
[19:20:12] <BBB> let's not overdo testing this commit
[19:20:17] <BBB> it's tested, passes fate
[19:20:18] <BBB> it's done
[19:20:18] <BBB> commit it
[19:20:22] <BBB> if it breaks, we'll figure it out
[19:20:28] <BBB> astrange: ping again :)
[19:21:14] <ohsix> j-b: well we get to split the difference, dvd navigation actually working to some degree was 2.5 years ago (asked someone who worked on it)
[19:21:24] <ohsix> playing titles worked before that but that's cheap :D
[19:23:49] <j-b> ohsix: totem-xine was removed in 2.28, according to the release notes. and according to the same, 2.26 didn't had navigation...
[19:24:11] <ohsix> j-b: yea, it was removed, but it had been deprecated for like 2 years
[19:24:42] <ohsix> navigation was down to the gst plugin being present and working acceptably, that's the 2.5 years ago
[19:40:58] <BBB> and they're still discussing gst...
[19:40:59] <BBB> blegh
[19:42:24] <mru> gst is fine, they paid our dinner last night :)
[19:43:00] <BBB> darnit, missed that
[19:56:32] <thresh> what, arpi is a ffmpeg developer?!
[19:58:25] <jannau> he was 2001-2003, at least we have commit with his account
[19:58:53] <iive> [FFmpeg-devel] git blame authorship -> 1845 Arpi
[19:59:29] <iive> about the same as D_S
[20:00:34] <j-b> thresh: still selling popcorn?
[20:01:01] <thresh> j-b: "ffmpeg-devel@, providing evening entertainment since a month"
[20:02:32] <DonDiego> thresh: no
[20:08:48] <mru> jannau: are those commits to ffmpeg proper or libswscale?
[20:09:32] <mru> apparently some were actually to ffmpeg
[20:09:37] <j-b> I see the point if libavresampler, I don't see the point in libavutil/libavcore for an external project
[20:09:56] <j-b> *in*
[20:15:03] <_av500_> '1
[20:15:07] <_av500_> +1 even
[20:37:11] * elenril wonders if he'll find a gazillion flame mail in the morning
[20:37:13] <elenril> +s
[20:38:00] <KotH> elenril: dont go to sleep! keep on reading!
[20:40:25] <elenril> sleep >> drama
[20:40:37] <elenril> sleep is almost the awesomest thing ever
[20:41:00] <elenril> and surely the most underrated
[20:41:36] <elenril> KotH: and you should go review my patches if you have time to flame =p
[20:44:12] <KotH> i slept too little to write straight sentences w/o hundreds of sentences, and you want me to review patches?
[20:44:17] <KotH> er..
[20:44:21] <KotH> hundred of typos
[20:44:27] * KotH rests his case
[20:45:04] <elenril> yeah, reviews allow me to not think while writing them
[20:48:44] <spaam> elenril: better if KotH code something.
[21:15:05] <j-b> DonDiego: master?
[21:16:14] <DonDiego> j-b: slave?
[21:18:16] <Compn> back to the whos the better tree talk then ? :P
[21:18:43] <_av500_> gabu_is_soooooo_funny!!!
[21:18:44] <ohsix> the one with more fruit bearing nodules
[21:18:58] <j-b> av500: for a certain definition of funny...
[21:19:07] <_av500_> j-b: for only one
[21:19:10] <_av500_> not
[21:19:43] * _av500_ wonders why hundreds of gabu fans dont speak up....
[21:19:57] <SunTzuTech> is that the swinging apendage guy?
[21:20:04] <ohsix> he's got an old saw to use
[21:20:10] <j-b> SunTzuTech: yes
[21:20:57] <j-b> av500: I am going to document on gabu's past... He seems a great potential of trolling... But that was before I cared about freesoftware
[21:21:23] <SunTzuTech> heh.
[21:21:28] <ohsix> right now he's just got his thing from 2004, fight fight
[21:21:33] <_av500_> j-b: aint you supposed to be drunk already?
[21:21:43] <j-b> av500: not tonight...
[21:29:17] <Dark_Shikari> Gabor looks to be spoofing someone's email
[21:29:47] <BBB> mine
[21:29:47] <BBB> :)
[21:29:58] <Dark_Shikari> why isn't he blocked then?
[21:30:00] <_av500_> a lot of effort to contribute valuable stuff
[21:30:08] <BBB> I feel proud to be recognized by the GREAT GABUCINO </sarcasm>
[21:30:18] <BBB> well anyway
[21:30:23] <Dark_Shikari> yay, incompetent mailing admins
[21:30:30] <BBB> michaelni: please stop this madness, you're making it worse
[21:30:44] <mru> Dark_Shikari: he's blocked now
[21:30:57] <Dark_Shikari> how so?
[21:30:58] <Dark_Shikari> IP?
[21:31:03] <Dark_Shikari> /16 ?
[21:31:05] <Dark_Shikari> /24?
[21:31:07] <thresh> .hu
[21:31:10] <mru> /20
[21:31:12] <Dark_Shikari> ok
[21:31:31] <mru> he may still find a way around it of course
[21:35:19] <Compn> by using any number of mail relays
[21:35:28] <Compn> why waste time banning him ?
[21:35:32] <Compn> or moderating
[21:35:33] <Compn> whatever
[21:35:41] <Compn> (sorry, wrong word )
[21:36:06] <_av500_> its a test to see who is more suited sysadmin
[21:36:07] <mru> of course he can, but we'll take it one step at a time
[21:36:24] <mru> I don't want to use unnecessary force
[21:37:24] <SunTzuTech> sick Palin on him :-p
[21:38:30] <ohsix> tiliting at windmills and or babysitting
[21:46:44] <ohsix> ad hoc rule making to exclusion only results in massive failure
[22:05:45] <michaelni> BBB: worse?
[22:06:33] <michaelni> BBB: you speak like you are the boss, sorry but you are not :)
[22:07:02] <BBB> michaelni: ok, let's do your game. which would you prefer, "us" (without you) to fork or "us" (with you) to reconciliate?
[22:07:14] <michaelni> later
[22:07:25] <BBB> latter?
[22:07:33] <michaelni> reconciliate
[22:08:07] <BBB> michaelni: then work towards it
[22:08:14] <michaelni> but if we dont i want a clean fork and not 2 ffmpegs thinking they are the 1 ffmpeg
[22:08:28] <michaelni> BBB, i dont know how
[22:09:21] <BBB> read a howto/manpage, google it, go see a psychiatrist, talk to friends, colleagues, but don't troll
[22:09:34] <BBB> does that help?
[22:09:51] <iive> BBB: that was personal insult.
[22:09:58] <michaelni> talk to friends? you mean gabu ?
[22:10:08] <michaelni> iive, yes, you should be baned now ;)
[22:10:13] <BBB> arpi sounds a little more sane
[22:10:14] <jannau> michaelni: do you think gabu is in any way helping to reconciliate?
[22:10:17] <michaelni> s/you/BBB/
[22:10:23] <michaelni> jannau, no
[22:10:31] <michaelni> but he is funny sometimes
[22:11:36] <iive> michaelni: I have no illusions that I will be banned next, if I continue speaking. Some people don't even knew I am developer.
[22:11:55] * michaelni will probably be baned a bit later
[22:12:16] * michaelni doesnt care all that much though
[22:13:06] <jannau> stop it
[22:13:22] <Dark_Shikari> jannau: he's trolling
[22:13:54] <jannau> and I'm telling him to stop
[22:14:01] <Dark_Shikari> he's michael, that's all he can do
[22:14:09] <Dark_Shikari> he lost the ability to develop a year or two ago.
[22:14:21] <jannau> stop it
[22:16:24] <Dark_Shikari> michaelni: it's only common sense that developers aren't banned from using the ML.
[22:16:36] <Dark_Shikari> nobody has ever proposed that or done that afaik.
[22:16:44] <michaelni> yes
[22:17:21] <mru> Dark_Shikari: if you started acting like gabu, I would not hesitate to ban you, developer or not
[22:17:40] <Dark_Shikari> mru: the threshold for banning should be higher for people who do actual work than for people who don't
[22:17:42] <mru> otoh, if you did, your mail account had probably been hijacked by gabu
[22:17:47] <Dark_Shikari> lol
[22:18:02] <Dark_Shikari> In before gabu starts hacking developer email accounts :>
[22:18:03] <mru> Dark_Shikari: what I mean is, gabu has crossed both thresholds
[22:18:07] <Dark_Shikari> Oh, I agree.
[22:18:19] <Dark_Shikari> He's just trolling his heart away now.
[22:19:15] * michaelni suggest something crazy, why dont you ask gabu to do something usefull for the project? like trolling with license violators? he was good at that ...
[22:19:27] <mru> lol
[22:19:37] * michaelni is serious
[22:19:50] <mru> I prefer using the lawyers
[22:20:03] <michaelni> gabu does more damage and quicker
[22:20:17] <mru> he may anger them more
[22:20:23] <Dark_Shikari> trolling in place of actual legal stuff can be dangerous.
[22:20:25] <mru> but that's not the goal
[22:20:37] <j-b> Dark_Shikari: you mean like improving H264 decoding without being at a local minima? or MVC decoding? or an awesome 2D->3D filter?
[22:20:46] <Dark_Shikari> >2D -> 3D filter
[22:20:48] * Dark_Shikari STABS j-b
[22:20:54] <mru> minimUM please....
[22:21:07] <j-b> Dark_Shikari: :) :D
[22:21:22] <j-b> mru: k
[22:21:53] <mru> j-b: you're french, you should know how latin plurals work
[22:22:34] <ohsix> and if you don't know the arity or specific instance?
[22:22:36] <_av500_> he is in prussia atm
[22:23:15] <j-b> mru: yes, but saying it, is so funny, because there is _always_ someone telling you how it should be... A bit like pizzas and "ne expletif"
[22:23:25] <j-b> av500: I did my sahre of latin
[22:23:55] <mru> it's a week since Dark_Shikari wrote that...
[22:24:06] <mru> I managed to not say anything until now
[22:24:21] <j-b> congratulation
[22:24:31] <BBB> michaelni: how many violations did gabu resolve?
[22:25:05] <mru> and now much money did he collect?
[22:25:24] <_av500_> michaelni: if gabu is so productive and usefull, he has a damn hard time making that clear by his emails
[22:25:43] <mru> or by any other means
[22:25:56] <michaelni> BBB, there was just 1 or 2 violators back then IIRC
[22:26:29] <mru> if that's so, you can't possibly know how good or not he was
[22:26:35] <michaelni> i dont remember the details but gabu got them to pay something before diego removed him with a vote
[22:26:42] <michaelni> that is IIRC
[22:26:48] <michaelni> ask gabu or arpi for details
[22:26:56] * _av500_ proposes to send gabu to china, tons of violators there
[22:27:21] <mru> they'll probably feed him to the dragons
[22:27:22] <BBB> michaelni: 1-2 isn't very much
[22:27:31] <BBB> michaelni: our sflc lawyers have done more already
[22:27:46] <michaelni> yes
[22:27:47] <iive> _av500_: there was one devastating earthquake there, they don't need another disaster! ;)
[22:27:59] <_av500_> iive: :)
[22:28:16] <michaelni> but the SFLC cant deal with violators in china atm and gabu might ;)
[22:28:44] <_av500_> china shrugs
[22:28:47] <BBB> he can pick any one he likes and do it
[22:29:07] <michaelni> BBB would he get some % of the money if he succeeds?
[22:29:18] <_av500_> why?
[22:29:28] <_av500_> he does it for the cause, no?
[22:29:29] <BBB> we can set up an agreement for him, diego and carl eugen if they like, sure
[22:29:38] <BBB> _av500_: no, lawyers get a share also
[22:29:45] <michaelni> _av500_, the SFLC takes % too
[22:29:56] <_av500_> iknow :)
[22:30:16] <BBB> michaelni: I have no problem with them taking a cut, as long as it's the same cut for diego, carl eugen, gabu or anyone else that feels like doing something
[22:30:28] <BBB> michaelni: so far, carl eugen, diego and me have done it for free because there was no agreement yet
[22:31:00] <michaelni> ok ill write arpi a mail, he can tell gabu (dont have gabus email handy)
[22:32:01] <BBB> troll at troll.hu?
[22:32:03] <ohsix> didn't he use it before he was moderated?
[22:34:31] <iive> michaelni: I was hoping that you are joking.
[22:37:13] <BBB> michaelni: be sure to make it clear to him that trolling is not the same as solving a legal problem, just in case he didn't know that
[22:38:08] <mru> trolling can actually make it worse
[22:39:36] <BBB> astrange: ping again (although I'm going home now, please don't sleep yet)
[22:39:55] <_av500_> mru: indeed, once they figure out who he is :)
[22:41:32] <Sean_McG> meh, this Tassimo cappucino is terrible
[22:44:49] <Sean_McG> tastes like I'm drinking muck (don't ask)
[22:45:19] <mru> then stop drinking it
[22:45:36] <Sean_McG> I suppose
[23:01:10] <j-b> oh, god...
[23:02:45] <astrange> <@BBB> astrange: ping again (although I'm going home now, please don't sleep yet) <- at 6pm?
[23:03:43] <Jumpyshoes> is astrange also on the eastcoast?
[23:03:47] <astrange> yes
[23:03:56] <Jumpyshoes> \o
[23:04:06] <astrange> BBB: i'm cleaning false whitespace changes from old merges, then i'll post the whole thing combined as RFC, but i expect people would want it split
[23:05:27] <jannau> michaelni: please tell gabu that his mails are not welcome and if cares for ffmpeg he should just stop
[23:05:49] * bcoudurier thinks that some people suddently got big mouths since the coup
[23:06:39] <jannau> if you want entertainment read his blog or we can recommend some books, films, tv series, ...
[23:07:07] * bcoudurier thinks maybe he should be more explicit
[23:08:49] <jannau> bcoudurier: please be. I have no idea what problem you have with me
[23:09:19] <bcoudurier> big mouth
[23:09:53] <superdump> ?
[23:15:57] <jannau> bcoudurier: will sending patches help
[23:16:54] <bcoudurier> time and contributions will for sure
[23:18:51] <ohsix> bcoudurier: you are always very level headed, a good thing to be!
[23:19:18] <jannau> ok, I'll try my best (and yes I realize that it could interpreted as continueing bing "big-mouthed")
[23:19:33] <jannau> being
[23:20:18] <superdump> the transition to git was a pretty big contribution
[23:20:23] <bcoudurier> ohsix, respect headed I think
[23:20:30] <ohsix> i think he really meant lately, vs. the actual apparent size
[23:24:52] <ohsix> calling out everyone on contributions is gonna make a mess
[23:29:52] <giftgas> ohai dudz
[23:30:00] <giftgas> so what up
[23:30:12] <giftgas> We, the FFmpeg [1]
[23:30:12] <giftgas> By the way, that is _SO_ not your trademark. You're just an average nerd, neck deep in copyright violation.
[23:30:16] <giftgas> this mail didnt get through
[23:30:32] <giftgas> To: koth
[23:31:04] <uau> you're not very good at trolling
[23:31:13] <giftgas> i love you too
[23:31:24] * Sean_McG lollerblades
[23:31:37] <giftgas> o//

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