[Ffmpeg-devel-irc] ffmpeg-devel.log.20120929

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[01:02] <michaelni> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/09/28/1759207/ffmpeg-10-multimedia-library-released
[01:03] <Daemon404> i predict retarded commenters
[01:03] <Daemon404> this is slashdot after all
[01:03] <llogan> just wait for reddit to pick it up
[01:04] <Daemon404> since when does reddit have any technical people
[01:04] <Daemon404> maybe hacker news
[01:04] <Skyler_> reddit is probably too busy being pedophiles
[01:06] <llogan> Why the name "Angel"?
[01:09] <Daemon404> and yup
[01:09] <Daemon404> retards are out full force
[01:09] <michaelni> llogan, no real reason
[01:10] <llogan> Daemon404: this one is acceptable: http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3151549&cid=41493029
[01:11] <Daemon404> that has nothing to with ffmpeg
[01:11] <Daemon404> one guy is claiming we support redcore
[01:11] <Daemon404> pretty sure we dont...
[01:11] <Daemon404> it's j2k based
[01:11] <Daemon404> redcode*
[01:12] <llogan> not as many "FFMpeg" as i expected
[01:14] <llogan> gah... http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?74004-FFmpeg-Reaches-Version-1-0#post288927
[01:14] <Daemon404> why do you read phoronix
[01:15] <Daemon404> im surprised he isnt benchmarking ffmpeg with different kernels on arm devices, and making graphs
[01:17] <ubitux> haha phoronix "0.9 closer to 1.0"
[01:17] <nevcairiel> this is why you dont release 0. releases for 10 years and then suddenly do a 1.0, people think its news worthy and causes all sorts of stuff around the web :p
[01:17] <ubitux> maybe someone should say to them it doesn't increment that way
[01:18] <Daemon404> nevcairiel, ffmpeg didnt
[01:18] <Daemon404> they released NOTHING for most of that time
[01:24] <ubitux> and again: http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?74004-FFmpeg-Reaches-Version-1-0&p=288929#post288929
[01:24] <ubitux> :(
[01:27] <iive> i think you should demand that debian must stop using ffmpeg name for the libav fork.
[01:27] <ubitux> and thanks to this the whole thread is about the fork instead of the new features that come in, too bad :p
[01:28] <ubitux> i believe i've already made that demand pretty clearly but well
[01:28] <iive> if you don't defend your trademark, you'll lose it.
[01:28] <iive> ubitux: have you contacted somebody from debian or posted on their maillists?
[01:29] <iive> not just complain to the person who actually created the mess?
[01:29] <ubitux> i've tried to talk to siretart, and i believe my blog post expressing my frustration about this was relayed 
[01:29] <iive> Or maybe even post a news entry with the request.
[01:30] <iive> And I do meen on the ffmpeg.org homepage.
[01:32] <ubitux> or a huge blinking banner in front page "FFMPEG IS NOT DEPRECATED"
[01:34] <iive> i'm not kidding.
[01:36] <ubitux> i was :)
[01:37] <ubitux> iive: really, to much effort fighting all the time for things we exposed pretty clearly
[01:38] <ubitux> i'm not willing to spend all my time into fighting this obvious strategic war move
[01:38] <ubitux> i'd like people to talk about the new features in ffmpeg at some point, so i'd better work on this :p
[01:39] <ubitux> iive: but if you have free time, feel free to do it :)
[01:41] <llogan> someone already made a similar request on launchpad
[01:41] <llogan> recently
[01:41] <iive> at the moment I am not involved enough in the project to talk from everybody's name. And you should have in mind that debian is the biggest distribution and it is used for basis of the most popular flavors.
[01:41] <iive> this is actually preventing ffmpeg from been accessible to a lot of people.
[01:42] <ubitux> i'm aware of the problem :p
[01:42] <llogan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/+bug/820117
[01:42] <llogan> it was relegated as low/opinion
[01:42] <ubitux> llogan: thx :)
[01:43] <ubitux> yeah, i wasn't expecting much, it is not the first one
[01:43] <llogan> also, for what it is worth, my experience with the "depreciated" commend was unsatisfactory.
[01:43] <llogan> *comment
[01:43] <nevcairiel> eh what do you expect with the maintainer on the other side =p
[01:44] <nevcairiel> this way they get to output the big deprecated warning to everyone!
[01:44] <ubitux> low/opinion is funny though :))
[01:44] <llogan> i didn't even know they had an "opinion" option until now
[01:44] <nevcairiel> probably added it just for you
[01:45] <ubitux> :D
[01:45] Action: llogan is now an oblique debuntu contributor?
[01:45] <llogan> shit is goign to get done!!111!`1~!
[01:47] <ubitux> it looks like using the wrong project homepage is a cosmetic :p
[01:47] <llogan> lol. i forgot about that. sill, eh?
[01:47] <llogan> *still
[01:48] <ubitux> that issue report looks old actually
[01:48] <ubitux> it's just that it was commented recently
[01:48] <llogan> ah. duuh.
[01:48] <iive> 1 year old. It have been read by the person who caused the problem.
[01:49] <iive> so nothing will change. Honestly people... do something.
[01:49] <llogan> shit. now i feel like a retard. i just noticed that *I* made that bug report.
[01:49] <ubitux> haha
[01:49] Action: llogan hides
[01:51] <ubitux> llogan: first "FFMpeg" appear in the /. comments!
[02:56] <Compn> lol
[02:57] <ubitux> seems it pissed him off
[04:03] <Compn> oh he linked to a bugreport that he made himself :D
[04:03] <Compn> thats funny
[04:04] <Compn> forget it jake, its chinatown
[04:05] <Compn> someone on slashdot asked why we dont mention fabrice on the website
[04:05] <Compn> we dont really have a history page
[04:05] <Compn> should point at wikipedia article :)
[04:06] <ubitux> Trademark
[04:06] <ubitux> FFmpeg is a trademark of Fabrice Bellard, originator of the FFmpeg project. 
[04:06] <ubitux> from the legal page
[04:08] <Compn> ah
[04:08] <Compn> i knew it was somewhere
[04:08] <Compn> good spot
[04:09] <ubitux> we could mention him in the about page eventually
[04:43] <Zeranoe> congrats on 1.0
[06:28] <ramiro> MP4_maniac: http://pastebin.com/GRzR0FDL
[06:29] <ramiro> MP4_maniac: thanks for the tip. works like a charm. maybe i should edit the file in-place though...
[09:48] <econnell> just wanted to pop in and give you devs congrats on your 1.0 release.   i've been using ffmpeg for years and you guys are awesome.
[10:42] <ohsix> closed updated updated, that's the first reason to not like it that i've seen :D people fight over bugs
[10:48] <saste> is KGB dead?
[10:49] <saste> you can never trust govern intelligence agencies
[10:51] <cbsrobot> ohsix: nah, it's just carl fixing his workaround - nobody fights
[10:52] <cbsrobot> saste: I'll call the stasi to see what happend
[12:43] <ubitux> yay, 2, 8 and 16 threads fate instances just failed at the same time :)
[12:44] <ubitux> 2 for mr1_bt_a this time, and 1 cama2_vtc_b
[14:07] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 6 new commits to master: http://git.io/U8rCDw
[14:07] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] ffprobe: add support to library ident printing - Stefano Sabatini
[14:07] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] ffprobe: drop SECTION_ENTRY macro - Stefano Sabatini
[14:07] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] ffprobe: generalize nesting model for the default writer - Stefano Sabatini
[14:13] <saste> ^^ 3 hours later?
[14:14] <ubitux> :)
[14:14] <saste> how are we supposed to deal with formats which need to know global information about the streams (number of packets, total size, etc.)?
[14:15] <saste> http://dpg.software.informer.com/wiki/
[14:15] <ubitux> seek & edit in write_footer callback?
[14:15] <ubitux> just like with mov?
[14:22] <iive> what I wonder, if there are 6 commits, why the bot reports only 3?
[14:40] <ubitux> iive: to avoid the flood? :p
[14:42] <iive> well, the old bot flooded multiple lines per commit, this one is using just 1. I'd say it can afford it.
[14:45] <ubitux> might be customizable in the github bot config
[14:45] <ubitux> but i guess that's a temporary solution anyway
[15:46] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 22 new commits to master: http://git.io/EktQrg
[15:46] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] mpegaudiodec: fix short_start calculation - Luca Barbato
[15:46] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] dsputil_mmx: fix reading prior of the src array in sub_hfyu_median_prediction() - Michael Niedermayer
[15:46] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] doc/platform: Mention MinGW-w64 - Derek Buitenhuis
[15:56] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/yjTSvw
[15:56] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] dshow: enhance error message - rogerdpack
[16:15] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/uSm9Yw
[16:15] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] fate: Fix --disable-zlib - jamal
[16:29] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/LkO-ew
[16:29] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] bink: get rid of double precision float use - Michael Niedermayer
[16:29] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] bink: remove unneeded special case in the init code. - Michael Niedermayer
[16:29] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] bink: reindent - Michael Niedermayer
[17:39] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/_maIWw
[17:39] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] lavf: free probe data in case we close before probing finished - Michael Niedermayer
[18:57] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/IGdhag
[18:57] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] mov: only print multiple edit lists warning for actually unsupported cases - Michael Niedermayer
[18:57] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] mov: add av_dlog() to dump edit lists. - Michael Niedermayer
[19:15] <KGB> [FFmpeg] michaelni pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/1gCqZA
[19:15] <KGB> [FFmpeg/master] ffv1enc: fix integer overflow with high resolutions and lots of slices. - Michael Niedermayer
[20:36] <phil94028> anyone have time for ffmpeg -i filename parsing question? 
[20:37] <ubitux> don't ask to ask, just ask [as long as it's related to ffmpeg *development*]
[20:39] <ubitux> heh, hacker's delight 2nd edition.
[20:40] <phil94028> I'm a hardware codec guy trying to use ffmpeg for hwcodec modeling. running debug in eclipse which is working fine  ..  I cant get the -i %04.yuv to parse to 0000.yuv what seems to get passed to the fopen is just the input string. 
[20:40] <ubitux> does it work with -f image2 prefix ?
[20:41] <phil94028> this is the input string  
[20:41] <phil94028> -s 1280x720 -r ntsc -f rawvideo -pix_fmt uyvy422 -i "%04d.yuv"  -y  test.mpg
[20:42] <phil94028> there is a file 0000.yuv  ... works if I give it just the -i 0000.yuv
[20:43] <phil94028> thanks .... I know it's propbably something silly. I tried to debug through to see where it expanced the %04d but couldnt find it
[20:43] <ubitux> afaict this kind of globing system is only available with the image2 demuxer
[20:44] <phil94028> oh ok  ..  and that doesn't wat for rawvideo I guess  ...  just for compressed file formats? 
[20:45] <phil94028> thanks  ..  I guess I'll try it with some jpegs or something per the docs to get a feel for it per the docs it should work with those at least 
[20:45] <ubitux> i'm afraid it was added in the image demuxer because you generally need that feature to build a video from multiple images
[20:46] <ubitux> maybe lavf/rawvideodec could be adapted to this eventually
[20:47] <ubitux> phil94028: though, i wonder if you couldn't concat them
[20:47] <phil94028> great  .. that makes sense  ...  us hardware guys use raw uyvy seqences a lot  ...  was just making me nuts that I couldn't see the parser failing in eclipse  ..  first time Ive used eclipse too so assumed it was me 
[20:48] <ubitux> anyway maybe try the concat protocol or just a cat *.yuv | ffmpeg -i ... 
[20:48] <phil94028>  I guess I'll try giving it the yuv's as a series or -i  
[20:48] <ubitux> that might work.
[20:48] <phil94028> of -is 
[20:48] <ubitux> if the input is raw, the size of each frame is predictable
[20:49] <ubitux> and i would guess a data stream will work
[20:49] <phil94028> thanks a lot  ...  I'll poke around and let you get back to something useful   
[20:49] <ubitux> cat *.yuv | ffmpeg -f rawvideo -i - ...
[20:49] <phil94028> havent used irc in 20 years too!  
[20:50] <ubitux> :)
[20:50] <phil94028> bye  
[20:50] <ubitux> finally, it ended up with a user question :))
[21:01] <ramiro> \quit
[21:01] <ramiro> oops
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