[Ffmpeg-devel-irc] ffmpeg-devel.log.20160318

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[01:46:46 CET] <cone-639> ffmpeg 03James Almer 07master:488e6409df24: libwebpenc_animencoder: add missing braces to struct initialization
[02:21:11 CET] <unsure> say does anybody know where there is a static version of ffmpeg....the only static windows one i saw does not work on windows in general as it requires special features of vcrt dlls
[02:21:48 CET] <unsure> and it is my understanding that those features are only for the latest versions of windows
[02:22:25 CET] <unsure> i don't know why people bother with static as it still seems to require certain versions of things
[02:22:41 CET] <jamrial> if you can't compile it yourself then grab a binary by zeranoe
[02:22:49 CET] <llogan> what version of windows are yoy using?
[02:22:54 CET] <llogan> *you
[02:23:22 CET] <unsure> jamrial...i think zeranoe was the one i tried .. but i will check again
[02:23:53 CET] <unsure> llogan well i tried it on win98 and winxp...but some people seem to be whoring out for only the latest versions of windows
[02:24:27 CET] <llogan> 98. xp. why?
[02:24:34 CET] <jamrial> nobody cares about win98. nobody should care about win98
[02:24:35 CET] <unsure> llogan...like cheap prostitutes trying to sell trash
[02:24:39 CET] <J_Darnley> Since it is a Unicode binary it won't support 98
[02:25:24 CET] <llogan> IIRC there is a recent XP specific build somewhere on Zeranoe.
[02:25:35 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...well i don't see why unicode interpretation can't be added as a supplement for a program to make it work on win98
[02:25:53 CET] <J_Darnley> Why not do that then?
[02:26:14 CET] <jamrial> unsure: if you really need winxp support, use one of the stable builds by zeranoe. afaik he's only compiling the snapshots for Vista+
[02:26:16 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...not me bud...i'm usually fine with ascii...
[02:26:18 CET] <jamrial> or just compile ffmpeg yourself
[02:26:58 CET] <unsure> jamrial...yes that is what i was trying to say...some people seem to be whoring out for microsoft to support only the latest versions of microsoft
[02:27:51 CET] <unsure> jamrial...see most people i know would not touch vista or any microsoft product after win98 or possibly xp if memory leaks was an issue
[02:28:31 CET] <jamrial> good for them, i guess
[02:29:03 CET] <unsure> jamrial...well it is just an issue of people not trying to keep up with the Jones'es
[02:29:23 CET] <llogan> you should use ffmpeg from 2000.
[02:29:51 CET] <unsure> jamrial...maybe rich people can afford to use the latest greatest stuff...but poor people can't afford to try to keep up with the Jone's
[02:31:29 CET] <unsure> unsure...i personally think all that extra fat of unicode encoding is not really needed to convert or create high definition videos
[02:32:29 CET] <J_Darnley> How do I open a file called "01.Cn’SHf.flac" without unicode?
[02:32:33 CET] <unsure> and some people don't think it is economically wise to use an atomic bomb just to kill a mosquito
[02:33:00 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...well use a hex editor to open it
[02:33:26 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...it is just a bunch of one's and zero's anyway
[02:33:29 CET] <llogan> i am not a windows user but i think the zeranoe builds for ancient windows when he added --enable-libmfx
[02:33:34 CET] <rcombs> J_Darnley: using Shift-JIS :P
[02:33:55 CET] <llogan> *stopped working when...
[02:34:29 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...do you know what an on/off switch is?
[02:34:51 CET] <J_Darnley> Yes
[02:35:06 CET] <J_Darnley> Ultimately if you want an ANSI version them compile one as such.
[02:35:22 CET] <J_Darnley> *then
[02:35:27 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...well just look at the one's and zero's and pretend they are about on and off
[02:36:25 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...do you know what TTL logic is....
[02:36:32 CET] <J_Darnley> no
[02:36:45 CET] <rcombs> unsure: nobody cares about supporting Win98 and all of 2 people care about supporting XP
[02:37:05 CET] <rcombs> (and those people should stop caring about XP)
[02:37:16 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...well transistors are really analog devices..but if you combine two of them in a certain way you can create an electronic on/off switch.
[02:37:25 CET] <rcombs> (that XP threading compat hack in w32pthreads does not lead to great things)
[02:37:30 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...then digital begins.
[02:37:33 CET] <J_Darnley> oh not time to live then?
[02:37:45 CET] <J_Darnley> A good TLA there
[02:38:20 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...no...i asked you if you know what an on/off switch is...do you ever switch on a light bulb or anything
[02:39:32 CET] <llogan> this "conversation" is offtopic
[02:39:56 CET] <llogan> if you need more help, i suggest posting on zeranoe forum.
[02:39:58 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..then think of a TTL ....as an on/off switch...and consider about 8 of them in parallel
[02:40:08 CET] <rcombs> in some channels I would've banned already
[02:40:24 CET] <unsure> llogan..well it is not offtopic...he asked how to see a file without unicode support
[02:40:40 CET] <unsure> llogan..first he has to know WHAT a file is
[02:41:12 CET] <J_Darnley> And you're the one claiming unicode is overkill for i/o
[02:41:50 CET] <llogan> this is the IRC channel for FFmpeg development. This is not ##lightswitchesandunicode
[02:41:50 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...i am saying...why use an atomic bomb to kill a lousy mosquito..it is an inefficient waste of scarce resources
[02:42:37 CET] <J_Darnley> Then thank god MS gave us an atom bomb when they were incapable of a flyswat!
[02:43:13 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..ok you are getting the idea...economics comes naturally to people when they have to live in the real world
[02:45:28 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...and when resources are scarce...you cannot afford to waste them or invest them unwisely
[02:46:21 CET] <rcombs> ah yes, investing all these resources in converting to UTF-16 up in userland (instead of letting the kernel do it) one time per process
[02:46:45 CET] <rcombs> how horrid
[02:47:08 CET] <rcombs> that'll be a giant slowdown when trying to transcode video
[02:47:12 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...so as a bank of switches....think of a row of Pascal's triangle....so you can see the link between a coin with two sides and an on/off switch.
[02:47:53 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..nobody asks whose face is on a coin...they ask how many sides does it have...does it need more than two?
[02:48:13 CET] <rcombs> &people ask how many sides a coin has on a regular basis?
[02:48:28 CET] <rcombs> this analogy seems to have gone downhill, and I didn't expect that to be possible
[02:48:31 CET] <J_Darnley> And the answer is 3
[02:48:39 CET] <TD-Linux> oh no is this #bitcoin
[02:49:19 CET] <unsure> rcombs...it has nothing to do with bitcoin...it is about getting ffmpeg to work on windows that people already paid for...so they never have to pay again
[02:50:24 CET] <rcombs> where I come from, we have a saying
[02:50:37 CET] <TD-Linux> "install gentoo"
[02:50:50 CET] <rcombs> that we apply to people who ask for support for OS versions that the vendor doesn't even support anymore
[02:50:53 CET] <unsure> rcombs...well where i come from ...it is corn-bread and chicken
[02:51:03 CET] <rcombs> it's very simple, just 2 words
[02:51:06 CET] <rcombs> "fuck off"
[02:52:18 CET] <unsure> rcombs...well what would you expect a money-grubbing firm to do except to try to keep charging for the same old thing....again and again and again...until people are sick of paying for it so many times...most people already paid a long time ago...and should never have to pay again
[02:52:42 CET] <rcombs> alternately take TD-Linux's advice
[02:53:44 CET] <unsure> rcombs...and TD...how wise you are..but gentoo is not that easy to install and is a nightmare to upgrade anything with so many blocks of any software upgrade
[02:54:09 CET] <rcombs> unsure: you do realize that it takes time and effort to maintain legacy software, right?
[02:55:06 CET] <unsure> rcombs...well..we are given some time on this earth..and most people would like to leave something behind after their time is up...so the world knows they once existed
[02:56:10 CET] <unsure> rcombs...and most people but not all usually want to create something with QUALITY.
[02:57:43 CET] <unsure> rcombs...otherwise in a hundred or so years...no one will ever know you existed....do you know the grave sites and names of the people in the old west who died a hundred years ago?
[02:59:29 CET] <J_Darnley> Then we had better do great good or great evil
[02:59:38 CET] <unsure> rcombs...i doubt you even know who they were..what their dreams were....what they laughed about...what they cried about..and so on...
[02:59:56 CET] <J_Darnley> being too crap to do good I will lean on evil
[03:00:51 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...well do you think you cannot be a Tchaikovsky or a DaVinci...or a Shakespeare or a Homer..or so on
[03:01:02 CET] <J_Darnley> Of cpurse not
[03:01:07 CET] <J_Darnley> *course
[03:01:23 CET] <J_Darnley> I am not creative enough or intelligent enough
[03:01:27 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...why not...why limit yourself for no reason at all?
[03:01:57 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..you don't see Sakaguchi or Uematsu trying to limit themselves.
[03:03:16 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...first of all creativity begins with "I can" not "I am" and if you start with i cannot...you defeat yourself.
[03:03:37 CET] <J_Darnley> Sure(!)
[03:05:06 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..if Uematsu had said "I cannot" you would never have heard the harmony in Tifa's theme.
[03:06:42 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...or if the Beatle's had said "I cannot" you would never have realized what a loss the tragedy of John Lennon was.
[03:08:14 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..or if Shakespeare had said "I cannot" you would never have understood the ties between Squall and Rinoa.
[03:10:17 CET] <c_14> unsure: if you dislike all this talk of "cannot", why don't you do it yourself?
[03:11:00 CET] <unsure> c_14...well i am doing many other things at this time...and i don't have time to do everything
[03:11:28 CET] <c_14> And we do?
[03:12:00 CET] <unsure> c_14...economics and the presence of scarce resources...dictates that you try to prioritize your activities in some way to avoid wasting your scarce resources.
[03:12:05 CET] <cone-639> ffmpeg 03Michael Niedermayer 07master:5694b2821132: avcodec/error_resilience: wait for previous frame to be available
[03:12:06 CET] <cone-639> ffmpeg 03Michael Niedermayer 07master:a7b8a6e704d3: avcodec/error_resilience: remove unneeded and disabled code
[03:12:54 CET] <unsure> c_14..time is another example of a SCARCE resource.
[03:14:23 CET] <unsure> c_14...what if Gallileo had not used his limited time to create a telescope...and instead had wasted it chasing women.
[03:15:27 CET] <J_Darnley> Invent telescope or get laid?  I know what I'd choose.
[03:16:03 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..well just remember...choices have consequences ...that you might not like with your limited time on this earth.
[03:16:31 CET] <j45> get laid, spawn a genius child.  child invents telescope. PROFIT!
[03:17:13 CET] <unsure> j45....do you consider the warmth and affection of the opposite sexies...to be profitable in some way.
[03:17:32 CET] <unsure> sexes
[03:18:05 CET] <unsure> j45...what about letting your feet get cold in the wintertime
[03:19:35 CET] <unsure> j45..have you been influenced by a James Bond flick on the importance of a good looking woman.
[03:21:17 CET] <unsure> j45...or were you influence by Homer on the importance of a good looking woman...so much so that thousands of men had to die just so the woman could be saved.
[03:22:10 CET] <unsure> j45...or were you influenced by Shakespeare on the importance of a good looking woman to Romeo.
[03:22:26 CET] <J_Darnley> Evolution
[03:22:52 CET] <J_Darnley> We were conditioned by evolution to be attacted to attractive women
[03:23:11 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...well Benny Hill did not call them attractive for nothing.
[03:24:04 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...a godess is hard to find...and even harder to hold on to.
[03:25:36 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..but it need not invoke a concept of evolution...it could have been someone who said there must be a spelling error if God created Adam and Steve.
[03:26:46 CET] <J_Darnley> Then god realised His (yes his) mistake and changed Steve into Eve so his new pets could breed.
[03:28:00 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...well Eve is not necessary for breeding...just look at implanted eggs and placentas in males and in-vitro fertilization
[03:29:03 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..i prefer to just say if, yes IF, evolution is not an issue then it could have been a spelling error where the bible says God created Adam and Steve in the beginning.
[03:30:04 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...don't be naive to think the VALUE of a woman is just for breeding....you have not learned the first thing about love.
[03:31:20 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...when the Greek King wanted Helen back it was much too late for breeding purposes...it was more a realization that a woman is irreplacable...and it doesn't matter if thousands of worthless men have to die to save one woman.
[03:33:01 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...especially...a woman so beautiful that her face could launch a thousand ships to their doom.
[03:35:36 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..it is called Western Civilization...not Law and Order of Eastern Civilations.
[03:37:40 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...it is a set of values that the west holds dear to tell the rest of the world...."In Your Face"
[03:39:04 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley..it really has nothing to do with Evolution or the Jewish tripe....it is more of how the ancient architects of the west peceived the value of a woman or goddess.
[03:42:27 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...in fewer words than the Beatles'...the song Badonkadonk...says simply..."MoneyMaker"
[03:44:22 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...and doesn't bother with any breeding irrelevance.
[03:46:37 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...Tifa was only a lowly Bartender...of a nothing breeding line....but was able to rise to Queen of the world because of her famous Badonkadonk.
[03:49:08 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...and to pick up and save the useless Cloud...because she cared for him..
[03:49:56 CET] <J_Darnley> I would have banged Aeris and then let Sephiroth destroy the world.
[03:50:20 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...Aeris...is way out of your league if you think in carnal terms.
[03:51:51 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...Badonkadonk is not about carnal...it is about being endowed with what her mother gave her....no matter what standing her mother had in life...and how a woman makes the world go around...not a stupid idea like gravity.
[03:53:12 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...there is no way that math and science no matter how far it progresses...can ever measure the value of a well-placed kiss by a goddess.
[03:56:43 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...or the value of a Tifa to kick Sephiroth's ass...when all the others were down and she was the only one left to save the world.
[03:57:23 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...with her good-lookin badonkadonk
[03:57:27 CET] Action: rcombs looks around for ops
[03:58:13 CET] <J_Darnley> should I stop nibbling at the bait?
[03:59:27 CET] <unsure> J_Darnley...of course...why be a stupid fish to be caught in someone's trap..when you can be a fisherman catching some fish for something to eat..instead of being eaten.
[04:01:39 CET] <J_Darnley> good night
[11:12:33 CET] <cone-941> ffmpeg 03Paul B Mahol 07master:93c6c52ad7e5: avfilter/vf_waveform: add subsampled input support for (a)color filter
[12:59:43 CET] <cone-941> ffmpeg 03Rostislav Pehlivanov 07master:f4b30beac0c1: vc2enc: increase the starting value of the  size scaler
[13:48:22 CET] <cone-941> ffmpeg 03Mats Peterson 07master:d8a1633ee4b7: lavf/avidec: Add blurb regarding the skipping of xxpc entries in the index
[15:27:48 CET] <BtbN> great ticket
[15:28:29 CET] <J_Darnley> Goddamn users
[15:28:38 CET] <J_Darnley> What does merge even mean to him
[15:30:21 CET] <nevcairiel> 2 videos -> ??? -> 1 video
[15:43:57 CET] <cone-941> ffmpeg 03Rostislav Pehlivanov 07master:d6e76dd13239: vc2enc_dwt: remove outdated comment
[15:52:44 CET] <cone-941> ffmpeg 03Ganesh Ajjanagadde 07master:bccc81dfa08e: lavc/aacenc_utils: replace powf(x,y) by expf(logf(x), y)
[16:09:03 CET] <ubitux> michaelni: is it ok to 16-bit saturate at each muladd in the polynomial evaluation in hscale (8 to 15 for now)?
[16:28:52 CET] <wm4> ubitux: another broken srt file, works on vlc http://sprunge.us/CLMf
[16:29:09 CET] <wm4> also works on mplayer
[16:29:49 CET] <wm4> the problem is probably that you're using scanf to parse the timestamps
[16:30:07 CET] <wm4> (and here is where I say again that using scanf to parse data is stupid)
[16:30:13 CET] <ubitux> the shit fuck
[16:30:30 CET] <nevcairiel> whats wrong with the timestamps
[16:30:32 CET] <wm4> the events look like 00:00:222.301 --> 00:00:225.800
[16:30:46 CET] <nevcairiel> haha
[16:30:50 CET] <wm4> while srtdec.c uses sscanf(line, "%d:%2d:%2d%*1[,.]%3d ....
[16:31:23 CET] <ubitux> i guess i should replace with %d
[16:31:40 CET] <ubitux> the fuck this is supposed to mean btw?
[16:31:43 CET] <nevcairiel> it also has things like 00:00:204.1
[16:31:49 CET] <nevcairiel> ie one digit millis
[16:32:06 CET] <nevcairiel> ... which is probably meant to be 100, which would fuck over your parsing big time 
[16:32:22 CET] <nevcairiel> not that a few milliseconds is that crucial, but you know
[16:33:51 CET] <ubitux> i guess http://sprunge.us/eEXA should do
[16:34:08 CET] <nevcairiel> how do people even manage to create these, you would think someone would take more care writing srt tools
[16:34:14 CET] <nevcairiel> or do people manually edit this shit in
[16:34:20 CET] <wm4> both
[16:34:24 CET] <wm4> everything is shit
[16:34:34 CET] <jkqxz> It will make a nasty difference if it goes back in time.  00:00:00.9 --> 00:00:00.100 (or the other way round, depending on interpretation).
[16:34:46 CET] <ubitux> nevcairiel: http://sprunge.us/eYPi
[16:34:58 CET] <ubitux> based on a quick look at the db i was sent
[16:34:58 CET] <nevcairiel> i would stick with the strict interpretation and assume .9 is .900
[16:35:18 CET] <nevcairiel> but sscanf would equal .009 and .9 of course
[16:36:32 CET] <nevcairiel> ubitux: the "srt which makes no sense at all" looks fun :D
[16:36:53 CET] <nevcairiel> apparently 1s are replaced by <
[16:36:56 CET] <nevcairiel> for some reason
[16:36:57 CET] <nevcairiel> :D
[16:37:00 CET] <ubitux> yeah actually
[16:37:07 CET] <wm4> ubitux: did you try how popular software handles these?
[16:37:15 CET] <ubitux> nevcairiel: i'm wondering if it's not a broken OCR based on a screenshot of a srt
[16:37:19 CET] <nevcairiel> haha
[16:37:31 CET] <ubitux> look at the } replaced with > too
[16:37:38 CET] <ubitux> wm4: nope
[16:44:24 CET] <cone-941> ffmpeg 03Clément BSsch 07master:7af3f27008b8: lavf/srtdec: do not be strict wrt timing digit lengths
[16:44:28 CET] <ubitux> wm4 ^
[16:45:10 CET] <ubitux> i wonder if this will help the negative timings
[16:45:13 CET] <ubitux> i'll have to recheck
[16:46:31 CET] <wm4> thanks
[17:06:51 CET] <michaelni> ubitux, if the mmx/sse* code use saturation then arm* can too, otherwise try if it works
[17:07:28 CET] <ubitux> michaelni: yeah i'm actually going to base my code on the x86 one
[17:07:31 CET] <ubitux> that will be safer
[17:40:53 CET] <la> http://macroptp.com/ref.php?user=tooriscool
[18:02:21 CET] <ethe> ^ is spam btw
[18:49:02 CET] <ln-> I tried to build git master (and other versions) with "--disable-hwaccels" on OS X, but encountered linking errors: http://pastebin.com/DcbQKpLx
[18:56:58 CET] <wm4> that's just stupid code we shouldn't have
[18:57:11 CET] <wm4> (the readback vda "decoder")
[18:57:34 CET] <wm4> it's somehow messily fused with the actual hwaccel
[19:42:52 CET] <fritsch> wm4: https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/9384 <- for your info as you might be interested, without that it does not make much sense on the Pi
[19:44:00 CET] <wm4> what's this about?
[19:44:43 CET] <fritsch> ffmpeg decode of hevc (that's where it is used for) and zero copy for rendering
[19:44:57 CET] <wm4> avoiding a memcpy per frame?
[19:45:29 CET] <fritsch> yes
[19:45:33 CET] <fritsch> memory comes from gpu
[19:45:36 CET] <fritsch> it's decoded into it
[19:45:40 CET] <fritsch> and then rendered from there
[19:45:58 CET] <wm4> doesn't seem awfully interesting
[19:46:06 CET] <wm4> why can't they add hevc support to the pi directly
[19:46:23 CET] <wm4> sw-decoding hevc on the pi is going to be a shit show in any case
[19:46:25 CET] <fritsch> cause there is no dedicated silicon
[19:46:34 CET] <fritsch> 720p works quite well
[19:46:40 CET] <fritsch> 1080p is targetted for the Pi3
[19:46:46 CET] <wm4> yes, but even so, the DSP probably can do better (though I don't know about its internal architecture of course)
[19:46:53 CET] <fritsch> yes everything no hw decoded && !corei7 is shit anyways
[19:47:20 CET] <rcombs> wm4: muh patents
[20:34:16 CET] <TD-Linux> fritsch, does that make any sense with the new free vc4 drivers?
[20:34:56 CET] <fritsch> nope
[20:35:10 CET] <TD-Linux> the vc4 architecture is *really* nice for implementing pieces of a codec, though IIRC the internal register file is a bit small for HEVC
[21:27:56 CET] <la> http://oortr.com/ZjllYz
[21:34:08 CET] Action: gnafu wonders if an op should ban this "la" character.
[21:35:50 CET] <BtbN> why ban someone who's long gone and won't come back with the same name/ip anyway?
[21:44:27 CET] <gnafu> BtbN: Good point, though this is the second time they've popped in today (albeit with a different IP).
[21:45:04 CET] <sfan5> ban the whole subnet?
[22:10:39 CET] <BtbN> gnafu, the one before was ln-
[22:50:30 CET] <gnafu> BtbN: Aah, hehe.  Shows how sleepy I am today.
[22:54:19 CET] <ethe> BtbN: The one before wasn't ln-. "17:41:44 <la> http://shitadvertisinglinkhere.com"
[23:01:30 CET] <qiubit> how to make sure ffmpeg uses native aac encoder during encoding?
[23:03:47 CET] <J_Darnley> just like any other audio codec: -acodec aac
[23:06:55 CET] <gnafu> ethe: Ooh, so I'm not quite as crazy as I thought XD.
[23:10:12 CET] <ubitux> https://security.googleblog.com/2016/03/bindiff-now-available-for-free.html
[23:10:14 CET] <ubitux> finally!
[23:11:18 CET] <JEEB> \o/
[23:11:54 CET] <llogan> how much did it cost previously?
[23:13:12 CET] Action: JEEB was mostly using vbindiff until now
[23:13:51 CET] <ubitux> not great for comparing asm
[23:14:32 CET] <ubitux> seems we still need to pay sth though
[23:14:35 CET] <ubitux> oh well.
[23:14:48 CET] <JEEB> oh right, *that* kind of bindiff
[23:15:11 CET] <JEEB> "To use it, you also need the commercial Hex-Rays IDA Pro disassembler, 6.8 or later." :D
[23:15:22 CET] <JEEB> that's only a couple thousand dollars
[23:16:07 CET] <Plorkyeran> if they'll even sell you a copy
[23:16:17 CET] <JEEB> I think nowadays it's easier?
[23:16:24 CET] <JEEB> it used to be really hard
[23:16:42 CET] <JEEB> haven't tried yet though myself of course
[23:17:37 CET] <ethe> Plorkyeran: why wouldn't they sell you a copy if you can pay for it?
[23:17:58 CET] <JEEB> ethe: you don't know how IDA was sold before, right?
[23:18:05 CET] <ethe> I have no idea
[23:18:06 CET] <JEEB> basically they ran random checks for you
[23:18:13 CET] <JEEB> s/for/on/
[23:18:22 CET] <JEEB> and for personal licensees you quite often got "nope"
[23:18:31 CET] <JEEB> you needed a corporation to make the order for you pretty much
[23:19:10 CET] <ethe> seems odd
[23:19:22 CET] <Plorkyeran> not just personal licenses
[23:19:36 CET] <Plorkyeran> one of the places I interned at had trouble buying a license
[23:19:57 CET] <Plorkyeran> for their guy that had security clearance and was working on a government contract...
[23:20:21 CET] <JEEB> sounds like hex-rays
[23:21:33 CET] <J_Darnley> Is that the Eric Cartman "You can't come in" business method?
[23:23:47 CET] <wm4> I don't understand this business model
[23:24:04 CET] <ubitux> ida is also extremelly aggressive wrt piracy
[23:24:31 CET] <ubitux> it was apparently scanning the network shares etc to find licenses violation a while back
[23:24:52 CET] <wm4> can you debug ida with ida?
[23:25:07 CET] <ubitux> pretty sure they've made sure it's not easy
[23:25:36 CET] <ubitux> it will end up in some kind of clood a-la-adobe i guess
[00:00:00 CET] --- Sat Mar 19 2016