[FFmpeg-devel] New project using ffmpeg

[Cezary Falba]

On 18 Dec 2007, at 08:20, Diego Biurrun wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 01:12:57AM +0100, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 01:34:25PM +0000, Cezary Falba wrote:
>>>
>>> On 18 Sep 2007, at 15:01, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 02:49:56PM +0100, Cezary Falba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Sep 2007, at 14:43, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 12:05:14PM +0100, Cezary Falba wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18 Sep 2007, at 12:03, Diego Biurrun wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 05:27:28PM +0100, Cezary Falba wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, could you please note that we've started new project using
>>>>>>>>> ffmpeg? It's homepage is s2.wap.filmnight.com/trailers/ 
>>>>>>>>> software.html
>>>>>>>>> but it will soon change to saffrondigital.com.
>>>>>>>>> It's a free download application that prepares video source  
>>>>>>>>> from our
>>>>>>>>> customers to be used by our system internally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let us know when you have found a permanent URL for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, where is the source?  Where is the credit?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The source code is available on request to everyone who needs  
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> Credits are displayed during instalation process...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just downloaded and installed the Mac OS X version of Saffron  
>>>>>> Master
>>>>>> Encoder.  No credits were displayed anywhere.  Nowhere is the  
>>>>>> word
>>>>>> FFmpeg or x264 mentioned.  There is no copy of the GPL.  You do  
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> provide source code nor describe where to get it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, you are violating the license in every way  
>>>>>> imaginable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please forgive me that - it's my first software release. I'll  
>>>>> add copy of
>>>>> GPL as well as proper information in Readme File that is going  
>>>>> to be
>>>>> displayed during installation. I will let you know when it's  
>>>>> done (surely
>>>>> by the end of this week).
>>>>
>>>> Let us know when you have done this.  Also, if you haven't  
>>>> already, you
>>>> should really read the GPL.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry for a long delay with solving those issues. Could you  
>>> please
>>> revise that software's site and give me your comments?
>>
>> First off, you mention FFmpeg (misspelled on your site), AviSynth and
>> Perl, but you don't link to them.  This is the internet, place a  
>> link!
>>
>>> I'm just not sure if there is enough information about the way we  
>>> use
>>> ffmpeg.
>>
>> The information you provide is OK I would say, but please do not
>> misspell FFmpeg (notice the two capital F) and use ffmpeg.org as the
>> homepage link.
>>
>>> I'd like to be 100% sure everything is clear and ok with ffmpeg  
>>> team before
>>> we include that page on company's website and allow other people  
>>> to use it.
>>
>> I just installed the Mac version of Saffron Encoder again but you  
>> made
>> no changes at all!  Everything I criticized above is still valid and
>> none of the things you promise above have been implemented.
>>
>> What's it gonna be?
>
> Also, you claim that your software is available under the GPL, but  
> when
> I download the source code, there is no sign of the GPL anywhere and  
> all
> files are marked as copyrighted by you or Saffron Digital or lack any
> copyright or license information.  This makes them effectively non- 
> free.
>
> Also, there is the following statement on your website:
>
>  By downloading our software you accept the GPL licence which can be
>  found here.
>
> This makes me think that you still haven't read the GPL, since it
> contains a paragraph about the need to accept the license that this
> conflicts with.
>
> Releasing your software under a license you have not read is  
> tantamount
> to buying a house/car/whatever without reading the contract.  I'll
> contact you in private with some excellent Brooklyn bridges that I  
> have
> for sale at premium conditions...
>
> best regards
>
> Diego

Good morning,

Thanks a lot for checking a site and all advices.
I just fixed a website and added a license to both sources and  
installers.
It will be highly appreciated if you could re-check that page again  
when you have few minutes.
There is no rush as we still have time before we officially release it  
to public.

Regards,
Cezary