[Ffmpeg-devel] alsa input / output

[Måns Rullgård]

Rich Felker <dalias at aerifal.cx> writes:

> On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 07:26:24PM +0100, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote:
>> Rich Felker <dalias at aerifal.cx> writes:
>> 
>> > On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 01:30:43PM -0000, Wolfram Gloger wrote:
>> >> > Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> writes:
>> >> > 
>> >> > > the linker would have to disassemble the code ...
>> >> > 
>> >> > I didn't say it would be easy, only that the usual standards do not
>> >> > prohibit it.
>> >> 
>> >> Not only is it not prohibited, it is considered desirable and
>> >> work is underway to implement it in GCC:
>> >
>> > Yet another reason gcc is idiotic then. Wasting huge resources (both
>> > development time and cpu time on the system running gcc) for the sake
>> > of useless "optimizations" that will make zero difference unless the
>> > coder is stupid.
>> 
>> Rich, you're forgetting one thing here: *everybody* except you is
>> stupid.
>
> M?ns... I don't think I'm being at all unreasonable saying it's stupid
> for the coder to put a function call inside a loop, when the call
> could have been outside the loop and the result saved in a local
> variable. gcc will not be doing anyone any favors by 'optimizing' it
> out of the loop. The code is poorly written and poorly expressive, and
> should be fixed by the coder, not by the compiler.

I thought we were talking about inlining library functions, not loop
refactoring.

> And FYI, what you said is blatently wrong. Michael is not stupid. :)
> And I don't think you are either.

Wow.  I'm honored.

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M?ns Rullg?rd
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