[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] samples.ffmpeg.org

[Thilo Borgmann]

Am 05.08.19 um 21:02 schrieb Michael Niedermayer:
> On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 08:48:03PM +0200, Thilo Borgmann wrote:
>> Am 05.08.19 um 17:57 schrieb Paul B Mahol:
>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 5:45 PM Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 05:24:31PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 5:21 PM Michael Niedermayer
>>>> <michael at niedermayer.cc>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 02:44:29AM +0000, Li, Zhong wrote:
>>>>>>>> From: ffmpeg-devel [mailto:ffmpeg-devel-bounces at ffmpeg.org] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>> Of Michael Niedermayer
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2019 3:45 AM
>>>>>>>> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
>>>>>>>> <ffmpeg-devel at ffmpeg.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] samples.ffmpeg.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 05:42:14PM +0100, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Aug 2019 at 18:35, Michael Niedermayer
>>>>>>>>> <michael at niedermayer.cc>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It seems we do not have a list of people volunteering to do
>>>> uploads
>>>>>>>>>> to samples. And no place to send such requests to except here,
>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>> they sometimes get ignored.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just give everyone with push access right to upload.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Upload currently requires an account on the server, giving
>>>> everyone an
>>>>>>>> account is a security risk.
>>>>>>>> It also doesnt really make sense to give someone access who doesnt
>>>> need
>>>>>>>> access.
>>>>>>>> If someone wants to take care of uploads (s)he can have access.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course if theres a majority wanting everyone with push access to
>>>>>> have an
>>>>>>>> account on the server, sure we will do that but i dont think its a
>>>>>> good idea.
>>>>>>>> IMHO its always better (aka more secure) if access is kept at a
>>>>>> minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> besides, it would be a bit of work to keep the list of who has push
>>>>>> access and
>>>>>>>> who has sampeles access synchronized. Its different servers and
>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> types of "accounts"
>>>>>>>> and the whole point from my point of view is that id like to spend
>>>> my
>>>>>> time on
>>>>>>>> other areas on FFmpeg While keeping accounts synchronized would be
>>>>>>>> probably more work than doing the uploads myself
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My suggestions would be:
>>>>>>> 1. If there is any volunteer to be fate-samples MAINTAINERS, tell him
>>>>>> how to apply and update the FATE MAINTAINERS list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iam not sure if there is someone, but if so (s)he should send an email
>>>> to
>>>>>> root or to ffmpeg-devel (again in case he did long ago already)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You are not sure that you gave someone upload access to fate samples?
>>>>> Perhaps you forgot?
>>>>
>>>> iam not sure if someone volunteered and did not receive access as at a
>>>> similar time other people suggested that the existing people with access
>>>> could handle it and no new uploaders where needed.
>>>>
>>>> So yeah, short form: i forgot the name from an email months or years ago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Can you check now who have access?
>>
>> Would it make sense to create a samples at ffmpeg.org address and put the people in charge behind that address?
> 
> samples at ffmpeg.org already exists and some daily debug messages from cronjobs
> end there. I am reluctant to just add people to this as they have not
> agreed to receive such cronjob "spam"
> but i can trivially add anyone who wants to be added
> or create a different alias with everyone who has currently access

If it already exists, we need another name for it as it is not for the server side of things but to give the user a common and hopefully static place to send requests to... sampleupload@, samples-request at ... whatever but both might independently change, especially the debug alias.

>>
>> How much work does one expect from that? Do we upload several a day?
> 
> uploads to fate are relativly rare counting them "per month" would make
> more sense than per day

So that means we should be quite safe finding two volunteers for that.


>>
>> I would volunteer to take at least part of the burden.
> 
> thanks

-Thilo