[FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 6/6] avcodec: add vvdec H.266/VVC decoder

Nuo Mi nuomi2021 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 23 15:07:51 EET 2020


Hi Lynne & James,
Do not worry about the dav1d things that happened on vvcdec. It just a
reference code like libaom.
We will not have a useable native vvc decoder in 0.5~1 years. During this
time, the wrapper can help us build many things, like container demuxer,
hls/dash/rtsp network streaming...
How about we flag the decoder as experimental, and declare we will retire
it after the native codec is ready.

Hi Marton,
Fully agree with you, all codecs are created equal, only the market can
decide which one is the winner.

Regards.




On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 4:14 AM Lynne <dev at lynne.ee> wrote:

> Dec 22, 2020, 19:24 by cus at passwd.hu:
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 22 Dec 2020, Lynne wrote:
> >
> >> Dec 21, 2020, 07:07 by nuomi2021 at gmail.com:
> >>
> >>> you can download test clips here:
> >>>
> https://www.itu.int/wftp3/av-arch/jvet-site/bitstream_exchange/VVC/under_test/VTM-11.0/
> >>>
> >>
> >> Honestly, I'm not sure about this patch. Its an external library
> decoder, which
> >> doesn't help us very much, and its for a codec competing with another
> codec
> >> (AV1) for which we don't really have a native decoder for yet. Not to
> mention
> >> some of us were involved with the effort to standardize and/or write a
> decoder
> >> for AV1, so there's also a personal element to not wanting VVC to have
> any
> >> success.
> >>
> >
> > I don't think it is a good idea to reject features in the project based
> on personal preference against a codec/format/company.
> >
>
> That was an insignificant part of my argument against it. I wouldn't even
> have mentioned this if I was the only one who was involved with AV1.
> Also its no so much "personal" as it is "political".
>
> My main point is accepting this wrapper doesn't help the project directly,
> instead it would result in a yet-another-libdav1d which might for real
> never
> actually get merged as VVC doesn't reach anywhere near the ubiquity the
> companies involved would have liked it to.
> We already have a dozen I-can't-believe-its-not-H264 library-only decoders.
>
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