[FFmpeg-devel] Mailing List Delay

[ffmpegandmahanstreamer at e.email]

August 4, 2021 11:17 AM, "Derek Buitenhuis" <derek.buitenhuis at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/3/2021 11:59 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> 
>> somehow this reads a bit offensive to me, iam not sure its meant to
> 
> It's not meant as an attack towards you pesonally, but rather to point out
> the absurdity of the situation:
> 
> * There is no public documentation on:
> * Who owns the physical infra.
> * Where it is located or who hosts it.
host.io/ffmpeg.org
https://telepoint.bg/
> * Who has admin access and how to contact them.
> * Any way to audit admin access.
> * Who to contact in case of issues.
listed in maintainers file
> 
> * There is no monitoring of infra at all. Stuff does down for hours and it
> doensn't get fixed until somene figures out who to poke so they can manually
> fix it.
> 
> * There is no auto-restat after crashes.
> 

what's your plan on fixing it? its simple devops anyone can set up. I believe you have root access, so come with a plan i guess and submit here?

> * Nobody is forthcoming with logs to help debug the issue, if there even are
> logs, and if we even know who has access. See point one. We are totally reliant
> on what the admin thinks it may be.
> 
I think lynne has root access as well, ask her?

> I find the total opaqueness and 0 auditability or accountability to be rather
> counter to the ideals of an open source project. For all we know, the mysterious
> host is MITMing us, or accessing the machines and doing sketchy things. Do I
> /think/ this is happening? No. But there is literally zero insight available.
> 
The host is not the problem. 
Besides, email is not necessarily supposed to be instant. Read the RFCs i think thats what they call them and it will tell you a email doesnt have to be instant.

I gave you suggestion to try different provider. Try that maybe? How about you see if the problem is you because it works for me instant on the four email providers ive been on. And you seem to be only one complaining. Mahol uses gmail and i think his emails come in fine. So maybe your email is in spam database or something.

> This also makes reliablity issues extra frustrating. It seems very slapdash for
> such a large project, to be honest. I do not mean to invalidate the efforts put
> in here to keep stuff running, etc., but there has got to be a better way. VideoLAN
> does not have any of these problems, for example.
> 
Theres the maintainers file, as Michael mentioned. If its outdated submit patch.

Doesn't videolan use gitlab anyway?


> - Derek
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