[FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request

[Soft Works]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces at ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> Lynne
> Sent: Samstag, 26. Juni 2021 08:25
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> devel at ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request
> 
> Jun 26, 2021, 02:19 by softworkz at hotmail.com:
> 
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces at ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of
> >> Lynne
> >> Sent: Samstag, 26. Juni 2021 01:29
> >> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-
> >> devel at ffmpeg.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request
> >>
> >> Jun 25, 2021, 13:25 by timo at rothenpieler.org:
> >>
> >> > On 25.06.2021 10:14, Lynne wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> The prices have dropped a little, but the biggest difference is
> >> >> that stuff is *actually* available now.
> >> >>
> >> >> Unfortunately, now is not a good time to build an entire system.
> >> >> Socket AM4's finished, so if I build an AMD system, it'll be
> >> >> obsolete within a year or so, and it'll be non-upgradable.
> >> >> Intel's Rocket Lake was such a giant slow flop, and its socket is
> >> >> also getting obsoleted by Intel once Alder Lake gets released
> >> >> later this year, and it doesn't support DDR5 anyway. And again,
> >> >> Rocket Lake was such a giant mess.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I don't think waiting for AM5 and DDR5 is worth it at the moment.
> >> > You'll be early-adopting a platform, which is always a bit iffy.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't mind being an early adopter, and I think I'll be getting that
> >> hardware on my own.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Do you really need a 6900XT? Every review I saw of those commented
> >> > on
> >> their horrible price/performance ratio. Similarly overpriced as the
> RTX3090.
> >> >
> >> > Would a 6800XT not work fine as well?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I also want to work on neural networks, since it seems to be the
> >> direction into which codecs and filters are going, and for that, I'll
> >> need lots of RAM and power.
> >> And I'd rather not have to update anytime soon.
> >> Here, a 6800XT is less than 200 Euros cheaper than a 6900XT, which
> >> for a 1600 Euro GPU isn't all that much.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Or maybe a combination of two smaller cards, like one RTX3070 and
> >> > one
> >> 6700XT, so you can test against both targets? Which would combined
> >> still be cheaper than a single 6900XT.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Not buying Nvidia unless its free, and happily sits gathering dust
> >> 99% of the time in a different system in another room that serves no
> >> other purpose to me but to test Nvidia cards.
> >>
> >
> > Wouldn't those 1% be a high value for the project?
> > (probably a cheap low-end boards would suffice for that as a 2nd gpu)
> >
> If I do need one, I'll try to grab one broken with one of its regs blown.
> They have the value of a brick since they don't work, but if you just desolder
> the blown reg, it'll work just fine with the rest. They overspec them.
> Speaking from experience.

> I have a 960M and it's a struggle to get it to work at all, and it gets broken by
> updates all the time.

The relation between "high-end-system" on one side and "soldering around on a defective Nvidia board" for Nvidia testing on the other side appears to be somewhat extreme. Given the total amount, adding a low-end Nvidia board wouldn't probably matter.

The justification of expense is none-of-my-business. But I value your Vulkan contributions and think it would be nice when you would be able to _easily_ test on Nvidia (e.g. without soldering ;-)

sw

> 
> 
> >> happy sitting gathering dust because you constantly have to update
> >> drivers,
> >>
> > You can, but you don't have to. Many updates are primarily game
> optimizations.
> >
> Vulkan gets new extensions very often, and codecs also get updates.
> 
> 
> >> I'm running out of power outlets,
> >>
> > At the Fractal Design Ion+ 860W?
> >
> No, on my wall.
> 
> 
> >> and I'm not very sure it'll even run fine without a monitor
> >>
> > It will (like all Nvidia boards)
> >
> I have a 960M and it's a struggle to get it to work at all, and it gets broken by
> updates all the time. I get that it's an Optimus system, but apart from its
> weird display plumbing, it just appears as an ordinary Nvidia card on a PCIe
> interface.
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