[FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] 5 year plan & Inovation

[Michael Niedermayer]

On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 02:22:33AM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 08:31:42PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler wrote:
> > On 17.04.2024 20:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 05:55:04PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 17 Apr 2024, at 17:22, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > > > > * ffchat
> > > > > > >   (expand into realtime chat / zoom) this would
> > > > > > >   bring in more users and developers, and we basically have almost
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Better leave that for others.
> > > > > > There's an infinite amount of discord clones already.
> > > > > 
> > > > > iam not following that genre that much ...
> > > > > so let me ask
> > > > > are there any that
> > > > > * preserve privacy (discord is not secure/private)
> > > > > * allow audio / video / text chat
> > > > > * scalable
> > > > > * need no central server
> > > > 
> > > > Matrix? Elements? Mattermost? Rocket.chat? Jitsi?
> > > 
> > > These seem quite complex systems
> > > 
> > > Matrix says "(optional) end-to-end encryption" which for me is a fail
> > > 
> > > https://jitsi.org/security/
> > > nicely explains their security. And i agree that anything running
> > > primarely in a browser controlled by google cannot provide security/privacy
> > > 
> > > what i had in mind with ffchat initially was a much simpler system
> > > simply something where 2+ people could connect and communicate with
> > > video and audio (text being easy to add).
> > > 
> > > The complexity of ffchat would be more between /doc/examples and
> > > ffplay.
> > > My basic idea was that people would be identified by their public key
> > > hash + DNS name. And then just setup a connection in a ffplay like
> > > interface.
> > 
> > That sounds a bit like re-inventing Tox.
> 
> indeed, i didnt know tox. So this would leave this just being a code
> example or a much more massive project both seem not that usefull or
> realistic ATM. the only problem is
> 
> 
> > Which sadly seems a bit dead.
> 
> yes, tox seems dead

actually,
it seems not dead, just their ML is dead, their IRC is pointing to tox group
one cant join with the current tox clients in ubuntu (or i dont know how)
then several git repositories are dead
but https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore seems alive, it has a release 3 weeks ago
I dont know how all these relate but things link a bit in circles

thx

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