[FFmpeg-devel] Worsening messages
Vittorio Giovara
vittorio.giovara at gmail.com
Fri Dec 27 20:22:44 EET 2024
On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 1:59 PM James Almer <jamrial at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/26/2024 12:07 PM, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 1:31 PM Michael Niedermayer
> > <michael at niedermayer.cc> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Community, Community Commitee, Moderators
> >>
> >
> > Your removal of this message as of 1504 GMT 26/12/2024 is completely
> > unacceptable with one days notice posted on a public holiday in most
> > countries.
> > Furthermore, you make regular allegations based on conspiracy theories
> > against me and others in the project without consequence.
> > Yet, a largely factual criticism of your behaviour from Vittorio is
> > censored immediately.
>
> This is a he-said-she-said situation. Both sides of the discussion
> accuse the other of defamation, to the point things escalated to absurd
> levels. I have already lost the plot and don't even know what riled
> people so much.
>
Just for clarity, I did not mean my email to be an accusation or defamation
against Micheal, but merely a list of "incidents" that happened and just
for coincidence all involved the same person. Some details have been
abridged for brevity, because I don't have the same energy as Micheal or
his minions to write walls of text and argue endlessly. I apologize if this
came across as insulting, but it was honestly not the case, however the
list of events is pretty accurate and all the references can be found on
the mailing list.
I don't want a list of accusations from Vittorio, you, or Michael, and
> also don't want people to start throwing insults again, but, politely
> and clearly, what is the core issue here? What is the problem that if
> solved, would make everyone finally calm down? Is it the thing about
> transparency and management? What else needs to be done that hasn't yet
> be done for either of those.
>
The problem is Micheal. He should either leave the project or at least drop
anything related to administration and infrastructure.
Or as Niklas elegantly put, the project should either fully switch to fully
authoritative mode or the powers for democratic decision making should be
handed off by the current ruling people (or person). This current state of
things is untenable.
> And as part of the CC (until the new one is finally formed), i also will
> inform everyone that this and other threads may be moderated if things
> keep going off the rails, with a proper announcement if so. Same for
> moderating users if insults keep flying around.
>
Thank you for the heads up. Hopefully it does not get to that.
--
Vittorio
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