[FFmpeg-devel] Fwd: Your message to ffmpeg-devel awaits moderator approval

[James Almer]

On 12/27/2024 10:26 PM, Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024, 01:20 James Almer, <jamrial at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/27/2024 10:15 PM, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 8:04 PM James Almer <jamrial at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2024 9:58 PM, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 11:46 AM Michael Niedermayer <
>>>> michael at niedermayer.cc>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Anton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 06:24:40AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
>>>>>>> Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2024-12-23 21:37:32)
>>>>>>>> If i stand by and do nothing, THAT would be abusing of my power
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Behold, the favorite excuse of every tin-pot dictator ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So boiling down your verbal vomit, I get
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        Yes, your democracy IS just pretend and I - the person who
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        * tries very very hard to avoid as much human contact as
>> possible
>>>>>>>        * oversaw one of the most toxic FOSS communities for close
>>>>>>>          to 25 years
>>>>>>>        * through heavy-handed authoritarianism directly caused one of
>> the
>>>>>>>          most notorious forks in FOSS history
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        really do know better than everyone else how to run a
>> community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To that I say:
>>>>>>> * you are delusional, as you are the source or enabler of all the
>>>>>>>      toxicity
>>>>>>> * Libav had NONE of these problems (not saying it was perfect - it
>> did
>>>>>>>      have other problems, but not these)
>>>>>>> * there is no hope for this project as long as you continue to hold
>> the
>>>>>>>      reins and I've wasted enough of my life on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the democracy is just pretend, then above all, you certainly will
>>>>>> agree that my SDR code would have been pushed to git master.
>>>>>> It was not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OH MY GOD, you are not bringing this up again! Ever heard of the
>>>> expression
>>>>> "the exception that proves the rule"? Think how much community outlash
>> it
>>>>> received and how much effort it took from EVERYONE to prevent you from
>>>>> doing something NOBODY wanted.
>>>>>
>>>>> You should really drop the "it's totally a democracy, except I can do
>>>> what
>>>>> I like" stance you have. Repeat after me
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>> 👏it's👏not👏a👏democracy👏if👏I👏can👏be👏judge👏jury👏and👏executioner👏
>>>>>
>>>>> You are not him, and never will be.
>>>>
>>>> Vittorio, this is not ok at all. I don't even know who "him" is, but the
>>>> second half of this email is out of the line.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's a meme: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bro-thinks-hes-him-im-him
>>>
>>> It's really sad that a CC representative is taking sides and victim
>>> shaming, when the very people of this community are leaving (forcibly or
>>> not) because of this thread.
>>
>> I'm not taking sides, i want things to calm down.
>>
> 
> Wanting things to calm down does not justify bothsidesism:
> https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/bothsidesing-bothsidesism-new-words-were-watching
> 
> You have outrageous and unprecedented behaviour from two people censoring
> the mailing list without any recourse.

For the record, I unlocked the thread you're talking about and approved 
all the held messages. Action against Compn should come later.
And me and the rest of the CC are dealing with Michael for the archive 
deletion and the git access fuck up.
That said, I would love for the vote to be over and a new CC assembled 
to take care of this.

So when i say i want things to calm down i mean please stop enlarging 
these threads. Things are bad, and the last thing we need is for them to 
get worse.

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