[FFmpeg-devel] root access voting

[Michael Niedermayer]

Hi

On Sun, Nov 03, 2024 at 08:56:36PM +0900, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
[...]
> >Thats besides the root admins should generally be professional admins and not
> >"popular politicans".
> 
> You have blocked Josh and Marvin, neither of whom strike me as popular politicians (sorry, no offence intended). They're not JB, Ronald or Kieran (again, no offence intended).

Thats not true in that way.

Josh asked for admin access
I asked if josh is a professional admin and what he does for a living. He did refuse to say what he
does for a living.
which is 100% his right but, for me raised a small red flag
I asked some other people why josh is asking for root access, because it seemed a odd
request. And was told that theres may be a connection to FFlabs

I don t remember Marvin asking for root, maybe he did and i forgot, i do get a
awfull lot of mail and a lot but less chat.
Also i did not conciously know/remember Marvin is a professional admin.

But given that this would be the 2nd request from a FFlabs member, it certainly
is a little odd after i have already been told theres may be a connection to FFlabs

And to be clear here, i have no problem with josh or marvin
its the context, the lack of a clear reason why they want admin access and
also the lack of a clear "iam a professional admin thats my day job"


> 
> >Also the root team has to get along with each other and trust each other,
> >obviously.
> 
> How do you trust the ghost mplayer/FFmpeg people? How do you trust the Bulgarian hosting company? It doesn't help that Bulgaria is statistically the most corrupt country in the EU.

seriously ?
the mplayer developers who in some cases risked their job to protect the server

and the company in Bulgaria gave us a free, and for our purposes powerfull and new server,
free hosting, unlimited bandwidth IIRC
and some admin in Bulgaria who had physical access if needed.

noone else did make a comparable offer, i wanted a backup server, i wanted another
box in case something went wrong with this. Something hosted in a different country
different jurisdiction, different hosting company. For redundancy. For a short time
i think we had one or 2 other offers but noone wants to provide a "backup" thats just
sitting there unused until a disaster happens it seems

I do take free things if they are offered instead of rejecteing them and paying for
something else


> 
> Germany, Austria or Switzerland seem a lot more trustworthy places to host than Bulgaria. How do you even trust the physical access to hosting? Did you visit and see the servers? Otherwise your point about trusting admins is completely moot, plain and simple.

I live in Austria, we have corruption here.
with germany, i remember hetzner, just recently had police shutdown tons of illegal servers

that said, i have no idea how one can even create a statistic for corruption or why it
would even matter for us.


> 
> >And last, where is that professional admin who wants to do work and who has
> >no root access ?
> 
> Marvin?

marvin ? did you ask for root and i missed it ?
if yes, are you a professional admin ?
and why do you want/need root ?

thx

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