[FFmpeg-devel] [REQUEST] Remove me from GA

Vittorio Giovara vittorio.giovara at gmail.com
Wed Nov 20 00:44:48 EET 2024


On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:50 PM Michael Niedermayer <michael at niedermayer.cc>
wrote:

> Hi Derek
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 02:19:45PM +0000, Derek Buitenhuis wrote:
> > Buckle in, this'll be a bit of a ride. Part of it is inflamatory, and
> > part of it is paranoid (or not) rants. I accept this may be slander and
> > will pre-emptively ban myself for the sake of getting it in the open.
> >
> > I do not wish to be involved in any voting or disucssions anymore,
> > related to the direction of community and its associated infra, etc.
> >
> > I do not want to be involved in choosing any new non-functional CC
> > or TC, because they are not effective due to their membership.
> >
>
> [...]
>

Being part of the CC you should answer this point instead of skipping it.
And it's the second person publicly lamenting how the CC is ineffective,
may you should listen!
My personal suggestion or question, why don't you step down and let people
be accountable for their actions? It would be a great first step to
avoiding emails like Derek's.

> I also do not believe STF and SPI are being used appropriately, and
> > I believe Thilo is recieving money through this, possible via Michael,
> > (and also only appears when the next thing he needs is relevant). I
>
> You should tell the police and file a lawsuit, if you belive any part
> of this.
>
> About SPI, they are a non-profit and quite transparent. If someone
> believes something is wrong, best would be to contact SPI.
>
> FFmpeg-SPI money can only be used after a request/discussion was on the
> public ffmpeg-devel mailing list.
> (we have cases for travel, for hw, for passing money from
> GSoC to mentors, from STF to people doing the STF work)
> This allows the community to direct and block all uses of SPI funds.
>
> Note, for cases like STF the community must speak up at the point before
> contracts are signed. because after that SPI/STF/Developers are bound
> by the contract and payment has to occur in exchange for the work.
>

Is this why amounts were set 1h before submission?

beyond that, your accusation is too vague and general to really
> comment. I have no idea what you talk about. I remember no payment
> to thilo except travel reimbursements.
>

If I may clarify, the problems raised with STF are:
1. nobody even knew there were people in talks with the association to
decide on funding
2. the projects were decided after the funding decision happened
3. the amount to be paid for the projects were unilaterally decided by an
unknown entity

In short, somebody acted in the shadows and even now keeps acting, ignoring
the community requests for having due process and some transparency.

> also think there is something weird going on with our booths which Thilo
> > keeps registering wihtout telling the community, and GPAC (NAB is already
> > registered BTW, with noone being told).
>
> Thilo managed booths since many years and these are publically announced.
> In case of "next NAB" i belive Thilo has not been able to find a sponsor
> yet. I suspect thats why it was not announced
>

That's not how booth management works, you need to pay the venue to
register for the space.
Also the fact "it's always has been the case" is not a good justification
for going forward
ALSO also, maybe there should be some accountability on the booth
management, if they are unmanned all the time and shared with other
projects THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT, maybe, just maybe, that person
shouldn't be managing the booths in the first place.


> > The only mails you'll see from me in the future are code or reviews. I
> > am sure certain community members will appreciate that.
>
> I think that makes FFmpeg closer to a professional Project in 2024
>

Burning out people is not something proper for a "professional Project in
2024".
Having transparency and community based processes is.
-- 
Vittorio


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