[FFmpeg-devel] Regarding Git Tooling

[Niklas Haas]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 14:39:29 -0600 Marth64 <marth64 at proxyid.net> wrote:
> Hello, in the context of a GA member,
>
> I think there is general interest in modernizing technical tooling
> specifically regarding ML/patch workflow vs. integrated git solution.
> Both have their merits. I think what we have today is optimized for
> some but cumbersome for many. Like shopping for a drill, it is good to
> step back from time to time and ensure we have the right tools.
>
> I think the problem statement of productivity being impacted from
> outgrowing the current tooling is different from who is hosting it.
>
> These are some options I noticed interest in (in no particular order):
> - Forgejo
> - GitLab
> - Mailing List/Patch Workflow (current solution)

Since our last discussion at VDD, I have come to prefer Forgejo over GitLab
and would be in favor of hosting an instance on ffmpeg.org.

What are the current barriers to doing this. Michael, since you said that you
are in favor iff the community agrees with it, should we start a GA vote on
the matter?

Can Timo set it up and maintain it for us? If not, I can also volunteer myself
to do it.

>
> If we evaluate this as choosing a software appliance and put aside
> "who is the host" I think we can have a good discussion. There could
> be value in coming to consensus on one step, then moving on to the
> next.
>
> The goal is not to spin around on which tool is better but I am wondering,
> - What other options would the community consider and any relevant pros/cons?

One pro about ForgeJo is that unlike most of its competitors, it is a community
run project with a democratic governance model, a high degree of transparency
on infrastructure and process, and a commitment to fully open source software
(GPLv3+).

This gives me high hopes that it will be a more stable and reliable platform
than its competitors which seem prone to rug-pulls and feature upselling by
their profit-motivated centralized leadership structures.

> - What are the next steps to make a path forward on this topic such as a vote?
> - What are the blockers and how can they be overcome?
> - If you feel very strongly about a particular tool that is not well
> received, what about it do you like and are there accommodations that
> can be made from the other options?
>
> Wishing for a healthy discussion.
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