[mplayer-dev-eng] mpalyer sucks! (not: autoconf suxx!)

[D Richard Felker III]

On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 12:01:41AM +0200, Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote:
> 
> >--[Moritz Bunkus]--<moritz at bunkus.org>
> 
> > > Oh, and none of the replies to my posting did contain any arguments... just
> > > the usual lame rant.
> > http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/889/
> 
> *yawn* as most of these rants, it's written by someone who doesn't understand
> the tools. If you'd read the comments you'd see his mistakes and his
> "arguments" refused. Most problems with configure come from broken
> configure.ac, or from the use of ancient autoconf versions (like the 4.5
> years old 2.13). And I've seen a lot of stupidly broken configure.in from
> people who couldn't be botheres to read the documentation.
> 
> > configure to cvs (very evil) or requiring every programmer who works on
> > the buildchain to have the very same version of all auto* because
> > they're so incredibly incompatible...
> 
> autoconf 2.57 has been released 2002-12-03, automake 1.7 2002-10-19. That's
> three quarters of a year you have autotools without any changes in the
> interface. They've been shipping in recent distributions anyway, so the tools
> are there. (And anybody who doesn't make his autoconf.ac depend on recent
> versions of the autotools should be shot anyway...)
> 
> Btw, there's always the preconfigured tarball snapshots option for casual
> developers. So next try, please.

Next try is: STFU. Either accept that MPlayer does not, and will
never, use autosh*t, or go make your own stupid fork to use them. Stop
trying to argue why we should use them though. It's a complete waste
of time and mail load. It's already decided and the answer is no.

Rich