[MPlayer-dev-eng] more NUT questions

[Moritz Bunkus]

Hi,

> This is the correct behaviour, but I don't think it's necessarily the
> case, any more than people put (say) XviD in OGM instead of XviD in AVI
> in OGM. I believe that what is considerably more likely to happen, given
> the tendency towards the latter, is that people encode a Vorbis file
> separately (which then ends up in its own Ogg container) and then mux
> *that* file, container and all, into an OGM.

The four tools I know that can create OGMs (my ogmtools, Cyrius'
ogmtools, the DShow OgmMuxer or whatever it is called, VDubMod) do not
put Ogg inside OGM/Ogg. They put the Vorbis stream into the destination
file, just like it's supposed to happen. Yes, a few years ago folks
tried to put Vorbis-in-Ogg into AVI (including the Ogg bitstream), but
not Ogg-in-Ogg/OGM.

> so I'd be very surprised, since there are AFAIK no Vorbis encoders which
> do not also automatically mux the resulting audio into an Ogg and hence
> no way to get "clean" Vorbis for muxing into another file.

Unlike FLAC no one uses Vorbis without some container around it.

> Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any
> side of it.

;)

Mosu

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