[MPlayer-dev-eng] pre8 update

[Diego Biurrun]

On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 12:55:37AM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2006 at 03:17:21AM +0200, Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 11:33:41AM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > 
> > > How convenient since me and the other people who oppose this nonsense
> > > versioning won't be there...
> > 
> > Which nonsense versioning are you talking about?  If you talk about
> > skipping 1.0 or Ubuntu schemes then rest assured that I dislike them
> > just as much as you.
> > 
> > This is a bikeshed discussion.  Two points should be clear
> 
> Get over your bikesheds dude. Did you just discover that word a few
> weeks ago? :) You're using it all the time now.

I did indeed discover it only a short while ago:

http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/bikeshed-full.html

And it's great to have a term for a concept that I've thought about and
discussed with others many times over the years.

> > - the current versioning scheme sucks
> > - therefore we need to replace it by some other sane scheme
> 
> In all honesty, yes, the current system sucks, especially the whole
> "pre" thing. However version number inflation, random version numbers,
> and meaningless version numbers also suck. If we really want to use
> something as meaningless as the date then we should just drop version
> numbers/releases altogether and release snapshots of known good
> versions labelled with the date....

Notice the word "sane" above ;).  The problem with versioning schemes is
that several alternatives exist and none is clearly better than the
others.  As I said, a bikeshed topic.

But you put a finger on the problem when you started talking about
meaningless version numbers.  Our current versioning scheme does have a
meaning in people eyes, it's just not the meaning we intend it to have.
That's the main problem.

> > If we decide to discuss this here it's going to be a month-long battle
> > of attrition.  We just need to settle on *something*.  Believe me, I'm
> > not looking forward to discussing this, but unfortunately it just needs
> > to be done.
> 
> It was already discussed here IIRC and we reached some reasonable
> conclusions, though I don't remember exactly. My preference was (and
> still is) to release pre8 according to schedule, then release rc1 and
> 1.0 final with the intention that they incorporate the main usability
> (dvdnav, ssa) and functionality (nut, maybe nemesi, ...?) items
> currently on the agenda.

That's more or less what I have in mind.

I'll just bite the bullet and start a new thread about this.  We'll see
how this works out..

Diego