[MPlayer-dev-eng] [patch] prefer ALSA over OSS

[Zsolt Barat]

Rich Felker schrieb:
> On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 05:36:15PM +0200, Zsolt Barat wrote:
>> Rich Felker schrieb:
>>>> audio devices but can't catch up with soundsystems we have nowadays, at
>>>> least it didn't. it is like saying: "let's go back to a drivermodel for
>>>> monochrome displays, because it's so simple and fits so well into the
>>>> unix philosophy of device access"
>>>> First of all, UNIX is dead and OSS is dead. We don't have to discuss it,
>>> If you claim this then your opinion is utterly irrelevant to me.
>> do you really think SCO-UNIX(UnixWare) will rule the world? in company
>> with OSS?
> 
> You're living in the early 90's. UNIX is a trademark of the Open Group
> and used to significy systems which are certified to conform to the
> Single Unix Specification. Or, more practically, it refers either to
so, you are a fan of AIX on the desktop right ;).
SUS compilant UNIX systems: AIX, HP/UX, SCO, Solaris, True64UNIX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification

> s/nice clean/ and you're right. But the whole problem is that the OS
> interface should NOT be a multimedia lib. Leave stuff like that to SDL
> and don't force people who don't want that crap to use it. I'm so sick
> of windows idiots coming over to linux and imposing the "everything is
> a library" philosophy. GO BACK TO WINDOWS AND LEAVE US THE @#*$ ALONE!
> 
so at the end if you see your battle lost you are trying to insult
people. i don't know whom you are reffering to in this outbreak, if you
mean me i just can dissapoint you in this regard. i never advocated an
"everything is a library" approach and don't know about a special
windows-philosophy. i don't use ms-products for ages and started hacking
on hp/ux-terminals with gnu-tools. so you would have to say to me: "go
back to hp/ux with gnu-tools", but i think thats more your world.
without gnu-tools of course.
maybe you mean the alsa-maintainers, but i doubt that they are microsoft
undercover agents.

> Said more politely, "when in Rome, do as the Romans".
racist romans.


>> OSS was never a standard, some unix-like systems just
>> used it.
>> in contrast OSS sucks and has a bad API.
>> furtheron:
>> 1. it doesn't support hardware-midi
http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?cat=2
quoting hannu, the masterbrain of oss:
"This is the good news. The bad news is that there is no MIDI support in
OSS 4.0. There are few bugs in the MIDI code and we decided to ship OSS
4.0 without it (instead of delaying release of the other parts that were
ready). MIDI support will be included in OSS 4.1 (hopefully within this
year)."


>>> No it's not. And it will never be removed. Even Linux 1.0 syscalls are
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/3/24/37


best

zsolt