[MPlayer-users] firewalls needed :)

SMuelas smuelas at mecanica.upm.es
Wed Dec 19 07:59:00 CET 2001


This mail is worth a lot more than two cents but probably it is too
serious, too "true" for this guys. I guess they will not appreciate it.
At least you must know that someone, somewhere agrees with you 100%



On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 02:59, D J Hawkey Jr wrote:
> [Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
> Hi, A'rpi.
> 
> Don't take this the wrong way, but if there's flaming about MPlayer going
> on, in some part the MPlayer team brought it on themselves.
> 
> Whether you know it or not, you folk have indeed been coming off as
> arrogant, elitist, or whatever the right adjective is. I've been on these
> lists for a while now, and rare is the reply to a question or comment
> that isn't inflammatory. Even your "RTFM" is belittling, if not insulting.
> Need I remind you of what everyone knows the 'F' to stand for?
> 
> Now, as someone pointed out a while back, it may be a cultural thing,
> what with many of the developers coming from what we Westerners call
> Eastern Europe. If this is the case, you'd be wise to "westernize"
> yourselves a bit, as that's where much of your userbase is.
> 
> You have a fine product. If you actually want others besides yourselves
> to know that, use it, and appreciate it - and by extension, appreciate
> you all - you ought to appreciate those users.
> 
> I wouldn't worry about "damage control", it may be too late for that,
> as you already have a reputation. Were I you, I'd start thinking hard
> and fast about things like "courtesy", "helpfulness", and yes, even
> "modesty". Put them to good use, and you may find that the perception
> of you and the team changes all by itself.
> 
> Just my two-cents' worth,
> Dave
> 
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> 
> On Dec 19, at 02:56 AM, Arpi wrote:
> > 
> > Hmm. Just browse a bit on the net... flame everywhere. about mplayer. of course.
> > about gcc 2.95+1, about linuxworld article, about docs, about support, about
> > everything... and there are lots of unanswered threads...
> > 
> > so i've find it out: we need to set up a *big* team to keep the flame away
> > from the project :)
> > 
> > or at least a big PR section... there are a lots of things to do...
> > 
> > A'rpi / Astral & ESP-team
> 
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