[MPlayer-users] .wma audio fails to play - an example

[Sergei Klink]

В сообщении от Воскресенье 27 Июль 2003 13:21 Raphael Clifford написал:
> [Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
>
> GS HUNT wrote:
> >[Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
> >
> >>Thanks for the info.
> >>
> >>Just for the record my suggestion was pretty much the opposite of what
> >>you refer to.  The idea is to be able to play drm protected audio (that
> >>you have paid for) in linux *without* contacting Microsoft the whole
> >>time and feeding the beast.  The problem is Windows media player/Windows
> >>and it's privacy breaches.  If we could do the the whole thing in linux
> >>we could have control over what gets sent to whom and when.  Sadly, we
> >>can't do it technically but if we could it would be good I think.
> >>
> >>Does anyone know where one get the specs for this encrypted .wma codec
> >>if they are available?
> >>
> >>Raphael
> >
> >Heh!  We'd all like those specs ! (Sorry I don't know... and if I did ..
> >they'd be obsolete by the time I posted them)
> >
> >I'd like to be able to play music payed for too in Linux...but that is
> > exactly what Micro$oft doesn't want.. I know you don't consider yourself
> > feeding the beast but consider the following.
> >
> >If someone develops a codec that plays these files freely..they'll just
> > come up with another way to protect them. (The developers of Mplayer will
> > be facing an ongoing battle for years to keep up.) (Let's just not
> > support this. I'll only buy music if it comes as a simple non-encrypted
> > mp3 or ogg file)
> >
> >There is pressure to in the United States to criminalize any software or
> >hardware devices that do not support Digital Rights Management, and those
> >which can reverse-engineer the DRM protocols. By coming up with codecs to
> > do just that could put more fuel on the fire to get this idea made law.
> > Ultimately, if this law was passed it could mean that using Linux would
> > be illegal, and giving micro$oft an unparalell monopoly.
> >
> >I think the way to encode these DRM files is not to support them at all..
> > and to encourage others to do the same. Eventually with luck they will
> > just go away.
> >
> >Gary

Not that there were a lot of "consumers" supporting them before they 
appeared...But I can imagine how hard could it be to persuade a _dumb_ 
winbloze user that (s)he should do something against a format that (s)he can 
already listen to(I'm 90% sure it's quite troublesome for a good portion of 
users though), and even when agreeing, who knows how much that person will 
actually do(I mean even not buying that music)? Those that actually do 
something on practice are almost certainly not even windoze users 
anymore...I'm personally at a complete loss of any effective ideas here(blow 
up Redmond or what's that place called?? That plus some other similar things 
would me more than worth a death sentence :)), at least "user-wise". I doubt 
this will ever work from the bottom.
But I do want to buy music that I can actually listen to without any tricks :(

>
> Hi,
>
> I understand your point and don't think it is a bad one politically.
> For this to work you really need a number of things
> 1) An active campaign to
> a) Encourage people not to buy DRM protected audio/video
> b) Explain why they shouldn't
> c) Write to those who sell DRM stuff explaining what is going on and
> where you will be buying products from instead
>
> You also have a particular problem in the US I know. For this you need
> an active political movement that will write to politicians explaining
> what your views are and that you will not vote for them  if they support
> criminalising reasonable behaviour and go against the tenets of freedom
> of action and choice that Americans are always talking about.  I know
> this is difficult in a country where the political and media classes are
> united but you can only try :)
>
> I think we could start with www.buymusic.com except that you can't even
> go to their website with IE!  To get into the website on linux simply
> disable javascript.  Then go to
> http://www.buymusic.com/support/email.aspx and get writing!

The site actually loads up no matter what I do with Konqueror for me...And 
Links/Lynx work, too :) No javascript there, I know...

>
> My interest in the previous posts was technical. I want to know what the
> technical obstacles are that we would need to overcome to play these
> .wma files. I suppose I'm just very interested in encryption :)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Raphael
>
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