[MPlayer-users] [BUGREPORT] Crash when REAL used with any -aop options

Reimar Döffinger Reimar.Doeffinger at stud.uni-karlsruhe.de
Fri Nov 5 08:31:05 CET 2004


Hi,

> >>>>Why isn't 50 the default?  Seems a much more sane value to me,
> >>>>and makes it work exactly like "-aop list=volume" does.
> >>>
> >>>I chose 90 because that fits perfectly for practically all movies
> >>>I have lying around (no DVDs). With 50, if I turn the volume up
> >>>fully, I will get very heavy artifacts because the volume is too
> >>>high.
> >>
> >>this is very bad. most dvdrips are adjusted to proper volume. most
> >>dvds on the other hand suck, and you need INSANE volume amp to be
> >>able to hear them at all.
> >
> >What is very bad? I find 90 a reasonable default, no need to make
> >adjustments for broken things default ;-)
> 
> I do not find "near maximum" to be a reasonable default, at least not
> without considerable justification. Even if 90 worked flawlessly for all
> cases (including the ones you've just dismissed on grounds of
> brokenness) - and I'd note that part of the reason why I wanted volume
> control in the first place is because I have some files (non-adjusted
> DVD rips IIRC) which are far too quiet even with system-max volume
> otherwise - I would still not be happy with having the default be near
> either extreme.
> 
> In any truly sane setup (leaving things like sound systems for public
> auditoria and so forth aside), IMO, a volume of "50% of max" will be
> just about equivalent to "normal listening volume"; this allows the
> maximum possible flexibility in both directions, whether higher for
> easier listening at a distance (or overcoming atypical background noise)
> or lower to avoid distracting people to whom it *is* background noise.

This may make sense for analog devices, but not in the digital world.
Unless the source is badly mastered it is impossible to increase the
volume by more than 10%.
The bias towards lower volumes seems very justified to me, as lowering
the volume causes hardly any problems, while rising it will cause artifacts.
Actually the right solution would be to setup you amplifier to a high
enough amplification and only _decrease_ the volume with filters ;-).

Greetings,
Reimar Döffinger




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