[MPlayer-users] help

Tony Traugott awt586 at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 14 02:05:30 CEST 2005


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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: audio - video synchronization (The Wanderer)
   2. Re: audio - video synchronization (D Richard Felker III)
   3. Re: audio - video synchronization (The Wanderer)
   4. Re: audio - video synchronization (Moritz Bunkus)
   5. xv overlay dies with nVidia card (Adam Nielsen)
   6. Re: xv overlay dies with nVidia card (Oleynik Phil)
   7. Re: xv overlay dies with nVidia card (Jouni.Lohikoski at iki.fi)
   8. Re: mplayer and joined mpg files by mpgtx -j
      (Jouni.Lohikoski at iki.fi)
   9. Re: mplayer and joined mpg files by mpgtx -j (Nico Sabbi)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:12:53 -0400
From: The Wanderer <inverseparadox at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] audio - video synchronization
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
	<mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu>
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D Richard Felker III wrote:

> dmix is an evil hack, don't bother with it... really, i can't grasp
> why on earth people would want to be bothered with other apps making
> sounds while they're trying to watch a movie or listen to music.

Perhaps the most obvious reason is so that they can avoid missing alerts
which pop up in the background (ranging from incoming IM bells to more
important things), which could be important but would be lost in the
existing flow of sound. (I know that when I'm running a random playlist
to accompany my general activity, I don't want to have to keep popping
back over to where I keep my open IM windows to see if a new message has
come in...)

Another possible reason, if less likely, is so that they can play two
audio files simultaenously; my brother used to like to do that to
compare downloaded audio files and see just how, if at all, they were
different, or for that matter just to hear the slight variations right
next to one another - it can be surprisingly entertaining.

> didn't you abandon windows for a reason?!?

Yes, I did (quite a number of them if I dig down far enough), but audio
mixing issues wasn't one of them.

-- 
       The Wanderer

Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any
side of it.

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:41:59 -0400
From: D Richard Felker III <dalias at aerifal.cx>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] audio - video synchronization
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
	<mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <20050413054155.GG24659 at brightrain.aerifal.cx>
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On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:46:56AM +0200, Sebastian Krämer wrote:
> I quit windows for other reasons than sound mixing. Said, I don't know how MS 

my point was not the way it does mixing. my point is the whole
interface design of having apps make annoying sounds on your soundcard
constantly. the soundcard should be for playing music, movies,
simulations, games, research, etc. not to annoy you every time an
error or an instant message pops up.

rich



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:03:53 -0400
From: The Wanderer <inverseparadox at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] audio - video synchronization
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
	<mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu>
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D Richard Felker III wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 01:46:56AM +0200, Sebastian Krämer wrote:
> 
>> I quit windows for other reasons than sound mixing.
> 
> my point was not the way it does mixing. my point is the whole
> interface design of having apps make annoying sounds on your
> soundcard constantly. the soundcard should be for playing music,
> movies, simulations, games, research, etc. not to annoy you every
> time an error or an instant message pops up.

Sometimes it *is* annoying, but sometimes it's helpful; as I indicated,
when I may receive an IM at any point but have no way of knowing when,
it can be nice to have the bell to let me know when it happens. If I
don't want to be interrupted by such sounds, I can easily turn them off.

I do agree with you in principle, I just differ somewhat in practice.

-- 
       The Wanderer

Warning: Simply because I argue an issue does not mean I agree with any
side of it.

A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them.



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 08:22:05 +0200
From: Moritz Bunkus <moritz at bunkus.org>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] audio - video synchronization
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
	<mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu>
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Hey,

> the soundcard should be for playing music, movies, simulations, games,

Playing games + using TeamSpeak. Requires mixing. Listening to music and
wanting to have SOME kind of audio notification of... whatever, the CD
burning being finished, a VoIP call coming in, etc etc. The point is
such things are very hard to set up on Linux while they work out of the
box on Windows. If you can't imagine why someone would need something
like that then it's just proof of poor imagination and not that users
are stupid and shouldn't require such things.

Mosu

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:20:45 +1000
From: Adam Nielsen <a.nielsen at shikadi.net>
Subject: [MPlayer-users] xv overlay dies with nVidia card
To: mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu
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Hi all,

I've noticed a rather annoying problem with mplayer and/or the nVidia
closed-source driver.  It seems that after I've played a few movies
(i.e. the xv overlay has been created and destroyed a number of times -
probably 15 to 20 times) it suddenly stops creating the overlay and all
I get is the blue window where the video should be.  MPlayer doesn't
display any errors (its output is no different to when the overlay
works) so I was wondering whether anyone else had experienced this
problem?  It's rather annoying and requires a complete reload of X11 to
fix (switching to text mode and back with Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't work.)

Thanks,
Adam.



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:38:31 +0400
From: Oleynik Phil <Oleynik.Phil at mail.ioffe.ru>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] xv overlay dies with nVidia card
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
	<mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu>
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Adam Nielsen wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I've noticed a rather annoying problem with mplayer and/or the nVidia
>closed-source driver.  It seems that after I've played a few movies
>(i.e. the xv overlay has been created and destroyed a number of times -
>probably 15 to 20 times) it suddenly stops creating the overlay and all
>I get is the blue window where the video should be.  MPlayer doesn't
>display any errors (its output is no different to when the overlay
>works) so I was wondering whether anyone else had experienced this
>problem?  It's rather annoying and requires a complete reload of X11 to
>fix (switching to text mode and back with Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't work.)
>
>Thanks,
>Adam.
>
Hello!

First of al, NVidia driver is open-source. You can run a package with

--extract-only

and get sources and also binaries for specific systems.
You may build it yourself, as you may like to do.
Read carefully ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7174/README.txt
and look what hardware issues correspond to your system.
Run xvinfo after you install new driver and update AS WRITTEN IN README
your XFree86 confguration. 
If problem persists after downloading -7174 version of a driver,
post xvinfo output here. 

Philipp



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:59:34 +0300
From: "Jouni.Lohikoski at iki.fi" <jlohikos at cc.hut.fi>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] xv overlay dies with nVidia card
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
	<mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu>
Message-ID: <20050413125934.GL22159 at cc.hut.fi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 02:38:31PM +0400, Oleynik Phil wrote:
> Adam Nielsen wrote:
> >(i.e. the xv overlay has been created and destroyed a number of times -
> >probably 15 to 20 times) it suddenly stops creating the overlay and all
> >I get is the blue window where the video should be.  MPlayer doesn't

Yes I have had the same problem. 

> >problem?  It's rather annoying and requires a complete reload of X11 to
> >fix (switching to text mode and back with Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't work.)

I sometimes get it fixed without restarting X, but I don't know how.
When it stops working, I switch to use -vo gl2, but I think sometimes
when after I have forgot to give that parameter it works again with xv.
Also at least one time xv wasn't working and was just showing blue, I
had hanging mplayer on the background and "killall mplayer" fixed it.
I don't know why, but sometimes mplayer seems to stay background
although it has closed its window (and GUI).

> First of al, NVidia driver is open-source. You can run a package with

No it is not. "Open-source" is something else but "partly open source".
If Nvidia driver really would be open source, RivaTV driver developers
wouldn't have problems to get Video-IN working with nvidia binary
driver. Now there is, and Video-IN does not work in Nvidia cards with
nvidia drivers. Please avoid buying Nvidia cards.

> --extract-only

or -x. Please notice the files in usr/lib/. If you have source code for
those files, I am sure very many people would be thankful if you would
share them.

Part of the driver (which uses nvidia hardware) is in .so files, and those 
are binary only.

> If problem persists after downloading -7174 version of a driver,
> post xvinfo output here. 

I have had the problem with v7174 driver. When I have it next time, I'll
try to debug more.

// jouni



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:02:58 +0300
From: "Jouni.Lohikoski at iki.fi" <jlohikos at cc.hut.fi>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] mplayer and joined mpg files by mpgtx -j
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
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> > usually it's the opposite. Please, upload a sample to incoming and post 
> > the filename
> 
> mpgtx_-j_-o_test.mpg_1.mpg_2.mpg_3.mpg-video_fails_in_mplayer_works_in_xine.mpg
> 
> After 23 seconds only audio continues and video freezed. It is the same
> place where 1.mpg ends.

Anyone else has the same problem with mplayer?
Also Totem fails to play it, but xine plays fine.
So it seems to be ffmpeg problem.

// jouni



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 15:09:56 +0200
From: Nico Sabbi <nsabbi at tiscali.it>
Subject: Re: [MPlayer-users] mplayer and joined mpg files by mpgtx -j
To: "MPlayer usage questions, feature requests,	bug reports"
	<mplayer-users at mplayerhq.hu>
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Jouni.Lohikoski at iki.fi wrote:

>Anyone else has the same problem with mplayer?
>Also Totem fails to play it, but xine plays fine.
>So it seems to be ffmpeg problem.
>
>// jouni
>
>  
>

I didn't have any problem, but I use by default -mc 0.1



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