[FFmpeg-devel] Politics

[Soft Works]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces at ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Hendrik
> Leppkes
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 7:31 PM
> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel at ffmpeg.org>
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Politics
> 
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 7:16 PM Daniel Cantarín <canta at canta.com.ar> wrote:
> >
> >  > This is a very lax attitude towards a serious problem that
> >  > everyone in the fansubbing community deals with. A frame
> >  > of offset is unacceptable for such use-cases, and they have
> >  > to deal with formats which made concessions to timebases
> >  > due to historical blunders.
> >
> > Please link to some such fansub community, where they're
> > discussing some serious frame-perfect sync issue. A single
> > comment in some forum would be fine. I would like to
> > understand those interests better, as all fansub communities
> > that I know of deal with audio timings, not video frames.
> >
> > I've mentioned this before; "people talk a lot about syncing
> > subs with video frames, but rarely against actual dialogue
> > audio", here:
> > http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2021-December/289290.html
> >
> > I've never seen anyone checking sub sync against video
> > frames: they always check it agains the dialogue in my
> > experience.
> 
> Then you have never seen anime translations where signage in the
> videos are translated. If the subtitles are off even by one frame in
> such a case, you will see it, especially when the translated sign is
> moving with the video, and one new subtitle event is generated for
> every video frame.
> You can't sync to audio when the element you are translating is in the
> video itself, and not audio.

I'm all-in regarding accuracy. That's out of question.


But please @Hendrilk & @Lynne: Provide an example demonstrating that
an problem that could be solved by increasing the scale of the 
subtitle timing values.

Let's look at real problems, not hypothetical ones.

Thanks,
softworkz