[Mplayer-cvslog] CVS: main configure,1.932,1.933

[D Richard Felker III]

On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 12:17:14PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tuesday, 09 November 2004 at 04:15, D Richard Felker III wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 10:28:11PM +0100, Colin Leroy wrote:
> [...]
> > > (Btw: your MX refuses my mail becauses it originates from a
> > > "dynamic/dialup IP". It does not :)
> > 
> > is this true? if so i demand that mphq be fixed not to use such crappy
> > blacklists. they're inherently broken. it's not acceptable for our
> > project mailserver to block legitimate mail, even if it does come from
> > an address some idiot classified as "dynamic/dialup".
> 
> I could argue with you about this. And I'd rather you didn't call such
> lists "inherently broken" and their maintainers "some idiots".

I have every right to call them this. They're self-righteous assholes
who are willing to destroy the internet's connectivity and freedom in
the name of fighting spam....and obviously it doesn't even help
fighting spam.

> What if
> these addresses really are dynamic or dial-up?

So what?

> Besides, dial-up users
> have no legitimate purpose for sending mail direct-to-MX.

Yes they do. I did this for many years.

> They should
> use their ISP's SMTP server, in which case such block doesn't affect them.

No they should not. ISP mail servers are unreliable, subject to
logging/snooping by the ISP (so is normal SMTP since it's sniffable
but afail no isps have the resources to packet-sniff everything), and
often won't let you send mail with an address from any domain but
their own.

Saying that people shouldn't be able to send mail because they can't
afford their own "non-dynamic" internet access is elitist and utterly
stupid. What constitutes non-dialup/non-dynamic anyway? Is a dsl
connection dialup/dynamic if it uses dhcp? What if it's "business" dsl
that's still dynamic ip? What if it's static ip but still a "home"
account? The whole distinction is stupid.

Rich