[MPlayer-users] XboxMediaPlayer false information spread on mplayerhq.hu

[gabor]

come on, calm down everyone....

let's assume that everyone wanted to do his best, and that this problem
was a misunderstanding....

as i see, there are 2 problems:
1. an older win32 binary, which the xbmp author(s) claim that it used
the ms-mpeg4 dll..... now gabucino thinks that it's really interesting
that it was faster than ffmpeg ( it's not faster than ffmpeg ), so he
thinks maybe you didn't tell the complete truth... so xbmp developers,
please comment on this..

2.in my opinion, if i don't offer to the public my program, then i don't
have to offer to the public the source-code (if my program used gpl
parts )... is i offered/gave the binary to some of my friends, than my
friends should ask me for the source code, and not anyone from the
public.  i don't think that i should have to hunt the distributors... i
created a program, if i give it to someone, that guy can ask me for the
source.... imagine that i create a program for myself using gpl-code.
now someone breaks into my house and steals the binary. now i have to
give the source to anyone who got the binary?... gabucino?

bye,
gabor

p.s: i don't think people don't care about this problem...

On Wed, 2002-10-16 at 12:03, Winner of tha face compo wrote:
> [Automatic answer: RTFM (read DOCS, FAQ), also read DOCS/bugreports.html]
> > The Win32 (by d7o3g4q) version of the XboxMediaPlayer was released about 4
> > months ago and does NOT contain XVID, FFMPEG or any other GPL code at all, it
> Well you should have clarified that on the web page. Not just from now.
> 
> 
> > uses a codec d7o3g4q build himself from scratch ( reverse engineering the divx
> > 3.11 bitstream).
> Aha... And it's 25%-30% faster than ffmpeg as you boast on the webpage?
> Then the whole opensource community would be pleased if you'd provide it
> under the GPL. And why did you switch to the SLOW ffmpeg?
> 
> 
> > And as it does not contain any GPL code the source does not have to be
> > released (and probebely never will as I doubt d7o3g4q still has the source
> > for this old release).
> Guessed so...
> 
> 
> > The Xbox version of Xbox Media Player does however contain both XVID or
> > FFMPEG code but it is not available for download on the website and is not
> > distributed by the Xbox Media Player team (e-mails have been sent to XVID &
> > FFMPEG authors informing about this), the GPL vas never violated.
> However it's _your_ duty to hunt those who distribute Xbox binaries on IRC
> or their webpages. And if I got an Xbox binary? Would you have provided the
> source then?
> 
> 
> > In any case source code for the Xbox version has now been released.
> Nice to hear that.
> 
> 
> > You have not contact me (my mail address been on the web site all along)
> I do not consider usernames created with md5sum valid.
> 
> 
> > or any of the authors. Not via e-mail or via the forums, you just posted your
> > false allogations without doing any investigate at all.
> It's not false allogation, your team didn't clarify which binaries are GPL.
> (Alas, the only GPL binary was the one that you didn't distribute. Am I
> missing something?)
> 
> 
> > I hope we can expect a retraction & an appologi posted on your site in the
> > near future.
> Hope is a nice thing, but you can't expect an apology.
> 
> 
> > Think of the people that read your site & believe it to be the gospel truth
> > so they do not either do any investigating.
> Didn't you notice this applies to YOU?
> 
> If this discussion progresses further, I insist to continue it on ffmpeg-devel.
> Most subscribers on mplayer-users don't give a shit about this.
> 
> -- 
> Gabucino
> 
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