[MPlayer-users] pre8 crashes on "Large H.264 MPEG-4" Hubble .mp4 file

Denis Vlasenko vda.linux at googlemail.com
Wed Aug 23 12:48:56 CEST 2006


On Wednesday 23 August 2006 10:49, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > > responses such as this, but it is blatantly incorrect behaviour for the
> > > vast majority of mailing list replies. (I, for one, would be - and
> > > sometimes am - quite irritated to receive a private copy of a message
> > > sent to a mailing list to which I am subscribed. At best, a private
> > 
> > Why you are irritated when you get two copies?
> 
> Because it's a waste of my time and resources. I'm subscribed to dozens
> of mailing lists. Imagine what would happen if everybody started replying
> to my mails with two copies.

You will get maybe about 10 extra mails of of daily total of 600?


> > > Also, no one removed your address from the reply; it was never there in
> > > the first place. This is because of the Reply-To header, which (properly 
> > > IMO) is set to include the mailing list address when it goes through the
> > > list.
> > 
> > But my name IS in the From: field, no?
> 
> Yes, but with mailing lists, it is expected that the reply will go to
> the list.

I suppose lkml is another good example of well-known mailing list.
These are the rules which are in effect there:


http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/31/224
From: Jiri Slaby
And do not remove cc people, please, when replying.


http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/7/7/9
From: Georgi Georgiev
Please, do not remove me from the CC.


http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/3/30/294
From: Lee Revell
> Please don't assume everyone subscribes to LKML, or that
> everything crafted to be threaded more-or-less-correctly
> was really crafted with any kind of "reply" command.  :)
Um, that's exactly why reply-to-all should be used, because not everyone
who posts to LKML subscribes to the list.  Otherwise, you'd either have
to make everyone who posts a question or a bug report subscribe to the
list to see the replies, or place the burden on the responder to keep
track of who wants to be cc'ed and who doesn't.
Beaised, even if you disagree with them, when you post to LKML you abide
by the LKML rules.  It's up to you to know what those are.


http://www.forbiddenweb.org/viewtopic.php?id=83220&page=3
From: sanjoy at mrao.cam.ac.uk
Sorry, forgot to reply to all the first time.


lkml FAQ: http://www.tux.org/lkml/
# Can we have a Reply-To: header automatically added to the list traffic?
  * (DW) Some mailing lists automatically add a Reply-To: header
    to the mails which go through them, forcing people to reply
    to the list, rather than replying personally to the original
    poster. This is a bad idea for many reasons which won't be
    listed here. See Chip Rosenthal's excellent summary
    Reply-To: Munging Considered Harmful for more explanation.


http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
(too large to post it here)


> > I do not accuse people doing this intentionally.
> > It happens automatically when one uses "Reply" instead of "Reply to all".
> 
> I use neither. I use List Reply, as I think everybody should.


Do as you please, but replies to my mails which have my name neither in To:
nor in CC: will most likely not be read most of the time, or read
with a delay of many days.
--
vda



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