[FFmpeg-devel] GSOC 2011 politics

Sat Apr 30 09:19:55 CEST 2011

Hi Michael,

Your mail dispirited me. I have been accepted for GSoC 2011 and yes, I have never in the past worked for Libav or FFmpeg. But GSoC is for students, not veteran developers. I have talked to a number of current FFmpeg / Libav developers (and at least one x264 developer) who came in through GSoC. I have finished my task which was open to all - anyone who wanted to have a shot, could have had a shot.

And getting accepted is not the end. If one does not finish the project, he will not get anything (and possibly blow any future chance in GSoC). So if you are aggrieved, you could have kept it to yourself until the program ends. Then the numbers of projects finished against the number of projects accepted would have served to support/refute your argument.

I respect you for your huge experience. I might never match your contribution to FFmpeg. But I really don't see any point to sending your complaints to a public mailing list.

Regards,
shahriman

--- On Fri, 4/29/11, Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at> wrote:

> From: Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at>
> Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] GSOC 2011 politics
> To: "FFmpeg development discussions and patches" <ffmpeg-devel at ffmpeg.org>
> Date: Friday, April 29, 2011, 11:10 PM
> Hi
> 
> FFmpegs GSOC 2011 timeline:
> 
> February 28:
> 19:00 UTC
> Mentoring organizations can begin submitting applications
> to Google.
> (http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/timeline)
> 
> 
> February 28 or 29
> Ronald Bultje registers FFmpeg with himself as admin
> 
> 
> Tue, 12 Apr 2011 [see below for mail]
> Ronald says he requested a new mailing list for soc-mentors
> from the roots
> I reply that i as root of the new ffmpeg server have not
> received any
> request and that i object to the list being moved to
> libav.org
> 
> 
> Fri, 15 Apr 2011 [see below for mail]
> Roanld explains that the list has been moved to libav.org
> and that to
> subscribe one has to agree to a complex license from
> google.
> 
> 
> April 25:
> 19:00 UTC
> Accepted student proposals announced on the Google Summer
> of Code 2011 site.
> 10 Projects for FFMpeg/libav are being accepted
> 10 choosen by libav
>  0 choosen by ffmpeg
> 2 of the students are libav developers, 1 of them has never
> written C
> code before. 0 students are ffmpeg developers
> 8 of the mentors are libav developers
> 2 of the mentors are ffmpeg developers
> 
> Has the ffmpeg side been shown the student applications?
> no
> Had the ffmpeg side had any say in which are accepted? no
> Why was sebastian (who passed all qualificatoin tasks) not
> accepted,
> while diego (who never wrote any C code let alone passing
> a
> qualification task) was accepted ?
> But more so why does ffmpeg have no say at all in this
> years ffmpegs
> gsoc?
> to me this sounds like a big scandal as if linux gsoc was
> 100%
> managed by freebsd people (or the other way around)
> 
> just my 10cent, and my appology to the students who have
> not been
> selected this year due to this political mess.
> And id like to wish the people who where selected good luck
> and hope
> their projects will succeed.
> 
> 
> 
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> Appendix, mails:
> 
> 
> From: Michael Niedermayer <michaelni at gmx.at>
> To: "FFmpeg SoC Mentors (private)" <ffmpeg-soc-mentor at mplayerhq.hu>
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:36:52 +0200
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-soc-mentor] GSoC 2011
> 
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 06:42:14PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:24 PM, compn <tempn at twmi.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > > dumb question... this list will be dead in a week
> or less. is there a
> > > replacement ? where is the soc list now? is libav
> hosting it?
> >
> > I've requested a new one from the roots and am hoping
> they will grant my wish.
> 
> i got no mail from you.
> but i can setup a list if/when needed.
> 
> Also id happily give ben the ML password to admin it if he
> wants.
> 
> moving the ffmpeg-soc* lists to libav is something i object
> to.
> 
> 
> [...]
> --
> Michael     GnuPG fingerprint:
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> -------------------------------
> From: "Ronald S. Bultje" <rsbultje at gmail.com>
> To: "FFmpeg SoC Mentors (private)" <ffmpeg-soc-mentor at mplayerhq.hu>
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:50:11 -0400
> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-soc-mentor] mod task continuation and
> GSoC 2011
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Stefano Sabatini
> <stefano.sabatini-lala at poste.it>
> wrote:
> > On date Thursday 2011-04-14 23:49:55 -0300, Vitor
> Sessak wrote:
> >> On 04/11/2011 07:25 PM, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> [private discussion about a student snipped]
> >> -Vitor
> >>
> >> PS: Sorry about the delay for answering, I'm on
> vacations...
> >
> > No problem, by the way this list is going to be closed
> and GSoc
> > related discussion has been moved to soc-mentor at libav.org.
> 
> And for those wondering: to be on the list, please sign up
> as a mentor
> on google-melange.com, you'll be added to the soc-mentors@
> list
> automatically.
> 
> Ronald
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